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Old November 8th 04, 11:05 PM
RicSeyler
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Default Panny 7UY Best pic going?

I'm in the market for a new home theater since Hurricane Ivan.
From what I've been reading in some groups that the
absolute best pic going in the 50" range is the Panasonic
7UY series... I'm looking into the TH-50 PHD7UY..

And comments pro or con? And are they best?

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Old November 9th 04, 05:57 PM
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There is a Best Buy in my neighborhood that I drift through from time to time. Seems to me that they do not keep up with the latest models and their prices are high. For example, I was recently shopping for an HDTV that I ended up buying from Sears for $3650 minus another $400 because they were 4 days late delivering = $3250.

Best Buy had that model in their stores about 3 weeks after other stores began to get it in and they now have it "on sale", in the paper, for $4250. I also noticed that Best Buy was selling floor models with very old manufacturing dates at what seemed to me to be extremely high prices. I think that they do not understand one basic rule of retailing: "10% off is not a sale".

mack
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"RicSeyler" wrote in message . ..


Thanks for the reply Theo.
I'll definitely do some research on the Fuji.


I stopped by Best Buy last night and checked out their floor stock.

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Old November 9th 04, 06:30 PM
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Yea I really liked the Gloss Finish over the Frosted.
Enough that it could cause me to jump brands just to get that feature.

Brynk wrote:

I think gloss versus matte finish has a lot to do w/ light in the
viewing room
I opted for gloss, since clarity and sharpness was my impt factor and
gloss seemed to stand out better
If you watch a lot during daytime and the room is flooded w/ light,
you prolly want matte, since gloss will get a lot of reflections

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Old November 9th 04, 06:32 PM
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I stopped by just to audition sets and not necessarily purchase from them..
I'm going to try to see as many sets as possible before making a decision.

I'm going to try and hit every store in my area. :-)

Mack McKinnon wrote:

There is a Best Buy in my neighborhood that I drift through from time
to time. Seems to me that they do not keep up with the latest models
and their prices are high. For example, I was recently shopping for
an HDTV that I ended up buying from Sears for $3650 minus another $400
because they were 4 days late delivering = $3250.

Best Buy had that model in their stores about 3 weeks after other
stores began to get it in and they now have it "on sale", in the
paper, for $4250. I also noticed that Best Buy was selling floor
models with very old manufacturing dates at what seemed to me to be
extremely high prices. I think that they do not understand one basic
rule of retailing: "10% off is not a sale".

mack
austin

"RicSeyler" wrote in message
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Thanks for the reply Theo.
I'll definitely do some research on the Fuji.


I stopped by Best Buy last night and checked out their floor stock.



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Old November 10th 04, 02:25 AM
Leonard Caillouet
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"Brynk" wrote in message
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Check out Costco
100% Lifetime warranty-no add'l charge

....and you really believe that?

Leonard


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Old November 10th 04, 06:06 AM
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Leonard Caillouet wrote in message news:[email protected]

"Brynk" wrote in message
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Check out Costco
100% Lifetime warranty-no add'l charge

...and you really believe that?

Leonard


How simple is this?

"This item is covered by Costco's guarantee to refund your purchase price
if you are not completely satisfied. Costco's guarantee applies,
even though this item may not be covered by the manufacturer's warranty,
because Costco is not an "authorized" dealer of the merchandise."

Do you see a problem?


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Old November 10th 04, 12:43 PM
Leonard Caillouet
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"Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
...

Leonard Caillouet wrote in message

news:[email protected]

"Brynk" wrote in message
...
Check out Costco
100% Lifetime warranty-no add'l charge

...and you really believe that?

Leonard


How simple is this?

"This item is covered by Costco's guarantee to refund your purchase price
if you are not completely satisfied. Costco's guarantee applies,
even though this item may not be covered by the manufacturer's warranty,
because Costco is not an "authorized" dealer of the merchandise."

Do you see a problem?


I have not explored the Costco guarantee, but it is obvious that any company
that offers a lifetime warranty on anything is most likely to be unable to
provide this in the long term. Many examples of companies with lifetime
warranties have come and gone over the years. Remember the (original)
Advent Louspeaker? Now you may get a good value in the short term by
exchanging a defective product or two and save a lot of money, but I would
not consider it a lifetime warranty. Nor would I buy stock in Costco. You
can't grow revenues beyond this kind of liability forever.

Leonard


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Old November 10th 04, 01:56 PM
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The guarantee is for real. I have plenty of friends and neighbors who have
been returning purchases for several years. One friend returned a computer
that stopped working after 2 years for a full refund. This was at the
"insistence" of a sales rep, when he mentioned he was unhappy that his prior
purchase broke down.

Since other stores have 14- 30 days return policies, Costco doesn't need to
be around too long for me to have a winning situation.

Don't worry about Costco's longevity though. The stock you wouldn't
purchase has gone up over 40% this year and almost doubled in the last 2
years.

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Barry


"Leonard Caillouet" wrote in message
news:[email protected]

"Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
...

Leonard Caillouet wrote in message

news:[email protected]

"Brynk" wrote in message
...
Check out Costco
100% Lifetime warranty-no add'l charge

...and you really believe that?

Leonard


How simple is this?

"This item is covered by Costco's guarantee to refund your purchase price
if you are not completely satisfied. Costco's guarantee applies,
even though this item may not be covered by the manufacturer's
warranty,
because Costco is not an "authorized" dealer of the merchandise."

Do you see a problem?


I have not explored the Costco guarantee, but it is obvious that any
company
that offers a lifetime warranty on anything is most likely to be unable to
provide this in the long term. Many examples of companies with lifetime
warranties have come and gone over the years. Remember the (original)
Advent Louspeaker? Now you may get a good value in the short term by
exchanging a defective product or two and save a lot of money, but I would
not consider it a lifetime warranty. Nor would I buy stock in Costco.
You
can't grow revenues beyond this kind of liability forever.

Leonard




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Old November 10th 04, 02:39 PM
Leonard Caillouet
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"Brynk" wrote in message
...
The guarantee is for real. I have plenty of friends and neighbors who

have
been returning purchases for several years. One friend returned a

computer
that stopped working after 2 years for a full refund. This was at the
"insistence" of a sales rep, when he mentioned he was unhappy that his

prior
purchase broke down.

Since other stores have 14- 30 days return policies, Costco doesn't need

to
be around too long for me to have a winning situation.

Don't worry about Costco's longevity though. The stock you wouldn't
purchase has gone up over 40% this year and almost doubled in the last 2
years.


Like I said, a purchase at Costco could be a good deal under this program.
I am not saying that people should not take advantage of it while it lasts.
But if you rally think it is a lifetime warranty you are not being
realistic. Their stock is likely overpriced, BTW. It might have been a
good buy a couple of years ago, but do the numbers now. Do you really
believe that because a company sees its stock price rise over a couple of
years that its longevity is assured? If you are a short term trader you can
make money on companies like this, but in the long run they will either have
to change the policy or the liability will eat them up.

BTW stock price on 11/08/2002 was $32.16, 11/08/2004 it was $49.18, not
exactly double. More like 1.5 times. In fact, over the past two years it
has underperformed the S&P 500 mostly, other than the past 4 months where it
has surged, likely due to some pretty good earnings. Unfortunately, stock
valuations do not account for a hideous liability such as offering a
lifetime warranty. I'm not betting my retirement on Costco.

Leonard


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Old November 10th 04, 03:23 PM
Brynk
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Closing price on 12/24/02 was 27.24
It hit 50.46 a few days ago
Sounds like an "almost doubled" to me, but 85% ain't bad

2 year return on investment is not exactly the definition of a short term
trade


Underperformed the S&P????
November of 02 saw a low of 872
Yesterday's close of 1164 would make for a 34% return for S&P 500
Even going back 25 months would make for a 51% return

You are a Costco competitor? Right??


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Barry


"Leonard Caillouet" wrote in message
news[email protected]

"Brynk" wrote in message
...
The guarantee is for real. I have plenty of friends and neighbors who

have
been returning purchases for several years. One friend returned a

computer
that stopped working after 2 years for a full refund. This was at the
"insistence" of a sales rep, when he mentioned he was unhappy that his

prior
purchase broke down.

Since other stores have 14- 30 days return policies, Costco doesn't need

to
be around too long for me to have a winning situation.

Don't worry about Costco's longevity though. The stock you wouldn't
purchase has gone up over 40% this year and almost doubled in the last 2
years.


Like I said, a purchase at Costco could be a good deal under this program.
I am not saying that people should not take advantage of it while it
lasts.
But if you rally think it is a lifetime warranty you are not being
realistic. Their stock is likely overpriced, BTW. It might have been a
good buy a couple of years ago, but do the numbers now. Do you really
believe that because a company sees its stock price rise over a couple of
years that its longevity is assured? If you are a short term trader you
can
make money on companies like this, but in the long run they will either
have
to change the policy or the liability will eat them up.

BTW stock price on 11/08/2002 was $32.16, 11/08/2004 it was $49.18, not
exactly double. More like 1.5 times. In fact, over the past two years
it
has underperformed the S&P 500 mostly, other than the past 4 months where
it
has surged, likely due to some pretty good earnings. Unfortunately, stock
valuations do not account for a hideous liability such as offering a
lifetime warranty. I'm not betting my retirement on Costco.

Leonard




 




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