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Old September 11th 13, 06:40 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article , tony sayer
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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
However, the delays on the audio feeds to all the other transmitters
(LW and FM) will vary (especially if carried on telephone lines, and
less so on fibre), so depending on their path lengths, the delays
would vary quite a bit (a few milliseconds?).


The distribution system is digital and will invariably introduce delay.
Maybe not much but easily measurable.

Droitwich at one time had a direct DC analogue line as a backup. Dunno
if it still has.


What all the way to BH?..


So we were told. Probably had to be driven with a 100 volt line amp. ;-)

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Old September 11th 13, 07:20 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 15:17:09 +0100, "Norman Wells"
wrote:

I saw an experiment performed on TV, possibly on the Royal Society's
Christmas lectures a few years ago but I can't remember precisely,
that


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Those would have been the Royal Institution Christmas lectures.

The Royal Institution is not the Royal Society.

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Well, I did say I couldn't remember precisely!
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Old September 11th 13, 07:48 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 18:20:57 +0100, "Norman Wells"
wrote:

Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 15:17:09 +0100, "Norman Wells"
wrote:

I saw an experiment performed on TV, possibly on the Royal Society's
Christmas lectures a few years ago but I can't remember precisely,
that


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Those would have been the Royal Institution Christmas lectures.

The Royal Institution is not the Royal Society.

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Well, I did say I couldn't remember precisely!


Way back in the 1950s I attended at least one series of those lectures.
That was well before they were televised. The lectures were conducted
according to the normal rules for lectures in that place. There was a
clock centrally positioned on the wall behind the lecturer. The clock
would chime once on the hour and the lecturer would enter and start
lecturing. 60 minutes later the clock would chime again and the lecture
would finish even if the lecturer had to stop speaking in mid-sentence.


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  #44  
Old September 11th 13, 08:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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tony sayer wrote:

Droitwich at one time had a direct DC analogue line as a backup. Dunno if
it still has.


What all the way to BH?..


It's that green cable running along the side of the motorway.

Bill
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Old September 11th 13, 08:53 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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R. Mark Clayton wrote:
The FM radio pips are accurate - I have a radio controlled watch (from
Rugby) programmed to bleep twice on the hour. The two bleeps go around
the sixTH pip for the hour.


But given the slow speed of sound, wouldn't that depend on how close your
ears are to the radio and watch?


The bleeps and bips are only about a quarter of a second, so as long as the
watch bleeps around the last bips then I know it is within 0.5s.

One could make the same argument about the transmitters, but the delay on
the rebroadcast FM is probably similar to the propagation delay from Rugby.


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Old September 11th 13, 09:30 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , R. Mark Clayton
wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article , R. Mark Clayton
wrote:
The FM radio pips are accurate - I have a radio controlled watch (from
Rugby) programmed to bleep twice on the hour. The two bleeps go
around the sixTH pip for the hour.


But given the slow speed of sound, wouldn't that depend on how close
your ears are to the radio and watch?


The bleeps and bips are only about a quarter of a second, so as long as
the watch bleeps around the last bips then I know it is within 0.5s.


One could make the same argument about the transmitters, but the delay on
the rebroadcast FM is probably similar to the propagation delay from
Rugby.


what happens at Rugby, these days?

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Old September 11th 13, 10:53 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"charles" wrote in message
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In article , R. Mark Clayton
wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article , R. Mark Clayton
wrote:
The FM radio pips are accurate - I have a radio controlled watch (from
Rugby) programmed to bleep twice on the hour. The two bleeps go
around the sixTH pip for the hour.

But given the slow speed of sound, wouldn't that depend on how close
your ears are to the radio and watch?


The bleeps and bips are only about a quarter of a second, so as long as
the watch bleeps around the last bips then I know it is within 0.5s.


One could make the same argument about the transmitters, but the delay on
the rebroadcast FM is probably similar to the propagation delay from
Rugby.


what happens at Rugby, these days?


30 men run up and down a field after a mis-shaped ball.

The transmitter moved to Anthorn in 2007 SP


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Old September 12th 13, 01:05 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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R. Mark Clayton wrote:

what happens at Rugby, these days?


Many years ago I drove a large vehicle through the town wondering what
the smell was. I'd got the handbrake on.

Bill
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Old September 12th 13, 01:18 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 00:05:34 +0100
Bill Wright wrote:

R. Mark Clayton wrote:

what happens at Rugby, these days?


Many years ago I drove a large vehicle through the town wondering
what the smell was. I'd got the handbrake on.

Bill


It wasn't very effective at stopping the vehicle, then.

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Old September 12th 13, 03:40 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright[_2_]
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Davey wrote:
On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 00:05:34 +0100
Bill Wright wrote:

R. Mark Clayton wrote:

what happens at Rugby, these days?

Many years ago I drove a large vehicle through the town wondering
what the smell was. I'd got the handbrake on.

Bill


It wasn't very effective at stopping the vehicle, then.

In those days few handbrakes were.

Bill
 




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