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  #31  
Old February 24th 13, 08:48 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:19:56 +0000, Roger Wilmut
wrote:

In article ,
Clive wrote:

In message , alan
writes
They spend millions on promoting Jimmy Savile and yet they cannot spend
a few pennies to show the Potter's wheel when they cannot be bothered
to broadcast on a channel.

By the potters wheel, I take it that you mean the one that used to be
shown during the intermissions on the old 405 transmissions before ITV?


Not ITV: it was one of a number of interlude films used by the BBC to
fill several minute gaps between programmes in the early 1950s - others
included windmills and Snowy the kitten. The Potter's Wheel film can be
seen he

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUzGF401vLc


He's not saying it was on ITV, but shown before ITV (ie before ITV
started in 1955).
  #32  
Old February 24th 13, 11:36 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Ian Jackson wrote:

There are obvious snags in placing and keeping a geostationary satellite
in position above Scotland


It's only a matter of keeping it still. I think fishing line would do it.
Three lengths, tethered to widely spaced places in Scotland, would be
enough.


It just occurred to me: if things like 'space elevators' are possible,
satellites could have a wired uplink and power supply which would enable
them to carry a lot more channels and be much more powerful. (I must be the
next Arthur C Clarke.)

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  #33  
Old February 24th 13, 11:54 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 09:44:43 +0000 (GMT), charles
wrote:

Because under DQF proposals, BBC 2 'nations' are to be ditched within
the next couple of years, and presumably the programming transferred
to the BBC 1 nations.


except during the Olympic games when all regional/national progarmmes are
transferred to BBC2 ;-)


What are you wittering on about? No regional/national programmes were
transferred to BBC2 during the Olympic games.
  #34  
Old February 25th 13, 12:49 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 13:18:17 +0000, Scott wrote:

why not BBC Two Scotland rather than BBC Two 'London'?


Demographic fact of the day:

A 'Yorkshire' regional variant of BBC One or BBC Two would have a larger target
audience than Scotland, or Wales, or Northern Ireland.


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  #35  
Old February 25th 13, 10:13 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 24/02/2013 17:06, Ian Jackson wrote:
So what do they do with the peat they disturb? Surely they don't just
burn it? Of course, I suppose it could always be used as fuel for power
stations. ;o)


Once you drain a peat bog it starts to rot. I guess the disturbance
exposes some of the peat to the air.

Andy
  #36  
Old February 25th 13, 10:33 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , Max Demian
wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Ian Jackson wrote:

There are obvious snags in placing and keeping a geostationary
satellite in position above Scotland


It's only a matter of keeping it still. I think fishing line would do
it. Three lengths, tethered to widely spaced places in Scotland,
would be enough.


It just occurred to me: if things like 'space elevators' are possible,
satellites could have a wired uplink and power supply which would enable
them to carry a lot more channels and be much more powerful. (I must be
the next Arthur C Clarke.)


There have already been a number of projects using aircraft, etc, as
platforms for broadcasting. However this method doesn't seem to have, erm,
'taken off' for wide audience domestic uses. :-)

I assume broadcasters are looking at either satellite or internet. In the
end internet probably makes most sense for all 'fixed' reception. But
requires the powers-that-be to take wide broadband provision more seriously
and not "leave it to the market" which just cherry-picks.

I'd be much happier about the way DTTV is being crushed if the Government
told the 4G companies that part of the 'price' would be for them to ensure
that 99 percent of UK households had reliable broadband at rates adequate
for, say, two symultaneous HDTV feeds. But of course, the 4G companies
don't want this as it may cut their income from getting people to pay them
for TV for their 'mobiles'.

Slainte,

Jim

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Old February 25th 13, 11:02 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article ,
Scott wrote:

On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:19:56 +0000, Roger Wilmut
wrote:

In article ,
Clive wrote:

In message , alan
writes
They spend millions on promoting Jimmy Savile and yet they cannot spend
a few pennies to show the Potter's wheel when they cannot be bothered
to broadcast on a channel.
By the potters wheel, I take it that you mean the one that used to be
shown during the intermissions on the old 405 transmissions before ITV?


Not ITV: it was one of a number of interlude films used by the BBC to
fill several minute gaps between programmes in the early 1950s - others
included windmills and Snowy the kitten. The Potter's Wheel film can be
seen he

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUzGF401vLc


He's not saying it was on ITV, but shown before ITV (ie before ITV
started in 1955).


Yes, that probably is what he meant. I don't know how long they went on
using them - it was years before they started cluttering up every
programme junction with endless trailers (if I see 'Much have I
travelled...' many more times I may throw something) though they did
tighten up their programme timings somewhat.
  #38  
Old February 25th 13, 12:00 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Paul Ratcliffe" wrote in message
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:22:58 +0100, Martin wrote:

Being proudly and stubbornly independent they will build their own
rocket and launch their own satellite into orbit.

But they'd have to put it into orbit above Scotland (at least some
of the time) rather than the equator.


because?


Because they're Scottish of course.


Dunno about the Scots launching their first satellite, but this was the
first Irish attempt to land a man on the moon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfz9O_mSY1U

  #39  
Old February 25th 13, 01:38 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 11:15:52 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:58:13 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:22:13 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 18:16:36 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:58:32 -0000, "Rick" wrote:



"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
om...
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 13:18:17 +0000, Scott
wrote:

I see the BBC Two high definition channel is to be launched on 26
March:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...bc-two-hd.html

As I understand it, this is to be a single version for the whole UK
without opt-outs for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

What is the logic behind this? If BBC One Scotland is shown in HD (in
Scotland) and STV is shown in HD in Scotland, why not BBC Two Scotland
rather than BBC Two 'London'? If they are making up a tartan mux, why
not include BBC Two Scotland?

This change applies to satellite channels as well. To make opt-outs
possible for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland would need an extra 3
HD satellite channels. This would cost money even assuming that there is
capacity on the transponders.

There may of course be benefits in allowing viewers in Scotland to
avoid Newsnight Scotland in the run-up to the referendum!


If Scotland votes for total independence, then they'll be requiring their
own national broadcaster.


Being proudly and stubbornly independent they will build their own
rocket and launch their own satellite into orbit.

Communication satellites used by UK are launched by Arianespace, with
zero British involvement and either built by Astrium a predominantly
Franco German company or by American companies. BAe sold their
interests in spacecraft production long ago.


Indeed. But I was suggesting, satirically, that Scotland outside the UK
would want to do the whole job indepedently of anyone else.


Just like the French did. Do you find that a bad thing?


There's nothing specifically wrong with it, but Scotland is a much
smaller country that France and it would need a much larger proportion
of its national financial resources to do the job.

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  #40  
Old February 25th 13, 01:53 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Max Demian
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"Roger Wilmut" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Scott wrote:

On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:19:56 +0000, Roger Wilmut
wrote:

In article ,
Clive wrote:

In message , alan
writes
They spend millions on promoting Jimmy Savile and yet they cannot
spend
a few pennies to show the Potter's wheel when they cannot be bothered
to broadcast on a channel.
By the potters wheel, I take it that you mean the one that used to be
shown during the intermissions on the old 405 transmissions before
ITV?

Not ITV: it was one of a number of interlude films used by the BBC to
fill several minute gaps between programmes in the early 1950s - others
included windmills and Snowy the kitten. The Potter's Wheel film can be
seen he

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUzGF401vLc


He's not saying it was on ITV, but shown before ITV (ie before ITV
started in 1955).


Yes, that probably is what he meant. I don't know how long they went on
using them - it was years before they started cluttering up every
programme junction with endless trailers (if I see 'Much have I
travelled...' many more times I may throw something) though they did
tighten up their programme timings somewhat.


I thought that the potter's wheel interlude was to give you a chance to go
to the bog (or make a pot of tea).

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