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Old June 28th 12, 12:39 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Max Demian
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Max Demian wrote:

The motive is important. Is to to help the one who makes mistakes
achieve a better standard, or is it to make the one who points them out
feel superior?


The former also demonstrates superiority, in assuming that the other
person wants to achieve a better standard of grammar.

That doesn't follow. A sports coach might train his subject to do things
he himself is unable to do.


I don't see how you can train people to have better grammar than yourself.

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Old June 28th 12, 01:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Stephen Wolstenholme[_2_]
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:39:11 +0100, "Max Demian"
wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Max Demian wrote:

The motive is important. Is to to help the one who makes mistakes
achieve a better standard, or is it to make the one who points them out
feel superior?

The former also demonstrates superiority, in assuming that the other
person wants to achieve a better standard of grammar.

That doesn't follow. A sports coach might train his subject to do things
he himself is unable to do.


I don't see how you can train people to have better grammar than yourself.



I could train people to have better grammar than I use most of the
time.

I know I can turn on my knowledge of grammar at any time but for most
forms of communication it is not appropriate.

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Old June 28th 12, 01:44 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 28/06/2012 07:33, Steve Terry wrote:
Gary wrote:
On 27/06/2012 13:41, Peter wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:54:25 +0100, Mark wrote:
On 26/06/2012 10:14, Ian wrote:

snip
She is old enough to have heard all the TV on fire story's. I remember
they seemed like every week when
I was a kid and there were public information films on TV advocating
unplugging the TV.

When you had 20 odd Valves in a TV burning away, fires was common place
There are not many PVR on fire story's.
That's cos there aren't any Valve PVRs

Steve Terry

Is that of importance to the Lady in question?
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Old June 28th 12, 01:46 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Gary
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On 28/06/2012 11:39, Max Demian wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
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Max Demian wrote:

The motive is important. Is to to help the one who makes mistakes
achieve a better standard, or is it to make the one who points them out
feel superior?
The former also demonstrates superiority, in assuming that the other
person wants to achieve a better standard of grammar.

That doesn't follow. A sports coach might train his subject to do things
he himself is unable to do.

I don't see how you can train people to have better grammar than yourself.

You could buy them a book and be supportive.
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Old June 28th 12, 04:21 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Max Demian wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Max Demian wrote:

The motive is important. Is to to help the one who makes mistakes
achieve a better standard, or is it to make the one who points them out
feel superior?
The former also demonstrates superiority, in assuming that the other
person wants to achieve a better standard of grammar.

That doesn't follow. A sports coach might train his subject to do things
he himself is unable to do.


I don't see how you can train people to have better grammar than yourself.

You could say, "Go and read a grammar book"...

Bill
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Old June 28th 12, 05:49 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Thursday, June 28th, 2012, at 15:21:15j +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

You could say, "Go and read a grammar book"...


Or more appropriately in this case,

"Eats shoots and leaves: The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation"
by Lynn Truss

http://www.amazon.co.UK/Eats-shoots-leaves-Tolerance-Punctuation/dp/1861976127

Now available in Kindle edition.

And please, whenever possible, only buy books in electronic form because
then you will pay VAT on the publication, and the coalition government
of national salvation needs every penny of VAT (now at 20%) in order
to reduce income tax on the highest earners.
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Old June 28th 12, 06:17 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Roderick Stewart[_2_]
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In article , Max Demian wrote:
As I said, in XP you have to explicitly enable hibernate (Control
Panel-Power Options-Hibernate) and the OS allocates a chunk of HD equal to
the physical memory, and the "Turn off computer" dialog says you can
hibernate by holding down shift while you click Stand by (I think).


I know this. It doesn't help to repeat it. You still haven't said whether on
starting up your PC from what you think is standby it gives the "Resuming"
message, which would indicate that it has actually gone into hibernation. If
so, this would explain the otherwise unexpected disk activity.

I know that XP is not supposed to go into hibernation unless you specifically
command it, yet somehow my laptop does. It waits about 5 minutes in standby
mode then goes to hibernation even though I have not knowingly told it to. I
wonder if yours could be doing the same? Maybe I've missed something but your
replies so far don't seem very clear about this. Do you get the "Resuming
Windows" message whe you start it?

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Old June 28th 12, 06:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Roderick Stewart wrote...

It waits about 5 minutes in standby
mode then goes to hibernation even though I have not knowingly told it to.

You can disable hibernation by running disk clean up and selecting the
Hibernate file cleaner or by running powercfg at a command prompt.
http://ss64.com/nt/powercfg-xp.html

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Old June 28th 12, 06:51 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Huge wrote:
On 2012-06-28, J G Miller wrote:

And please, whenever possible, only buy books in electronic form
because then you will pay VAT on the publication, and the coalition
government of national salvation needs every penny of VAT (now at
20%) in order to reduce income tax on the highest earners.


You do realise the top 10% of earners pay 50% of the taxes, don't you?

It's more like half of the top 10% of earners pay 50% of the taxes,
the other half have accountants who make sure it's sent abroad, etc.

Steve Terry



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Old June 28th 12, 07:51 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Bill Wright wrote:

Mark O'Knee wrote:

Regrettably, most of these things need to stay on all the time, unless
you want the hassle of turning on/off many at night. It's the "curse" of
the modern age,


No, it just means we pay a few pence per year per item for the
advantages of having it on standby. It's good value I think. It
certainly isn't an important issue. It isn't worth discussing really.


And for much of the year much that standby power would be have to be
replaced by your heating system if you eliminated it.

And overnight standby power is mostly produced by nukes with no carbon
emission unlike the heating power replacing it in the morning.

And consider the carbon emissions required to have and pay for an
electrician to come and replace a socket because the switch is knackered
after turning it on and off for 10 years

I speculate the cost of treating and productivity loss from back injuries
bending over to switch things on and off all the time is significant
compared to the savings available from standby power reduction.

 




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