Electricity falls out of the wall socket

On 27/06/2012 18:05, Alan White wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:34:43 +0100,
wrote:

I read this NG a lot and the grammar and spelling and badly written
sentences are rife. However most are tolerated and not commented on.
It used to be considered very poor netiquette to criticise the grammar
and spelling of other posters for obvious reasons.


I find it really annoying. I have not had the advantage of a good
English education. Partly the school I went to and partly I just have
difficulty with spelling. I have, however, hadexperiencein Electronics
and ran my own business successfully for many years. Mycollegeresults
are good with my City and Guilds,distinctionon all parts. I have never
had a 'paid for' driving lesson, but passed my test the first time
forboth carand motorcycle. I also had courses in BSL and passed with
credit. Computer code (a long time ago). Ham radio (Distinction) when
the exam was a real exam.

When I amon hereand I seethe awful typing and spellingand grammar that
even I recognise as being wrong. I amappalled. ButIdon't say anything. I
am not dyslexic, but I do have a form of word blindness. I cannot spell
a lot of words and I cannot see what the problem is. I have to rely on
the spell checker. I can return tosomethingI have written later and see
the errors. I can see the spelling is wrong, butstillcannot spell it
correctly without thehelp of the spell checker . That is how the
incorrect plural came through on my original reply. I trusted the spell
checker inthunderbird.

The reply I got was uncalled for andunhelpful. And, as I said because
this is a technical NG the word Technical wastotally wrong in my
opinion. However, I did place a smile after it. The reply did not add
anything to the subject being discussed. It waspurelya pop at my reply.
I did not take it badly at first, but now I am slightly ****ed that all
the grammar policesuddenlycome out and have a go.

Thanks for the support where given.

Gary

I find it really annoying. I have not had the advantage of a good
English education. Partly the school I went to and partly I just have
difficulty with spelling. I have, however, had experience in Electronics
and ran my own business successfully for many years. My college results
are good with my City and Guilds,distinction on all parts. I have never
had a 'paid for' driving lesson, but passed my test the first time for
both car and motorcycle. I also had courses in BSL and passed with
credit. Computer code (a long time ago). Ham radio (Distinction) when
the exam was a real exam.

When I am on here and I see the awful typing and spelling and grammar
that even I recognise as being wrong. I am appalled. But I don't say
anything.

I am not dyslexic, but I do have a form of word blindness. I cannot
spell a lot of words and I cannot see what the problem is. I have to
rely on the spell checker. I can return to something I have written
later and see the errors. I can see the spelling is wrong, but still
cannot spell it correctly without the help of the spell checker . That
is how the incorrect plural came through on my original reply. I trusted
the spell checker in Thunderbird.

The reply I got was uncalled for and unhelpful. And, as I said because
this is a technical NG the word Technical was totally wrong in my
opinion. However, I did place a smile after it. The reply did not add
anything to the subject being discussed. It was purely a pop at my
reply. I did not take it badly at first, but now I am slightly ****ed
that all the grammar police suddenly come out and have a go.

Thanks for the support where given.

Gary

The previous posting of the above text was reformatted by Thunderbird.
When it for some reason asked if I wanted it in Plain text or HTML. I
said plain text , It has never asked before, it said OK and proceeded
to screw up the formatting and post it without telling me what it had
done. I apologise for the mess. That is technology for you. Fingers
crossed this time.

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"Ian" wrote in message
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I've just heard Alastair Campbell say on TV that if you leave a socket
switched to on with nothing plugged in, it still uses power.
--
Ian

According to my Lady Wife who happened to be watching (instead of being told
by others) what he actually said was that if you unplug everything from an
extension lead and the light is still on then it is still consuming
electricity.

Your wife misheard.


Which must be true else where do you get the energy from to light the neon
indicator?
How much a neon indicator consumes, however, may turn out to be
insignificant :-)

"Roderick Stewart" wrote in
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In article , Max Demian wrote:
If standby on XP doesn't write stuff to the disk, why does it take such a
long time to enter (and leave) standby when there are lots of programs
active? About a minute or so on my (admittedly underpowered by modern
standards) XP desktop.

Are you sure it's really going into standby? If during the power up
sequence
from what you think is standby, you see a black screen with a progress bar
and "Resuming Windows", then it's actually been hibernating. "Resuming" in
Windows language means recovering from hibernation, which will mean
reading
lots of stuff from the disk.

No, it talks about going into and out of standby. And you have to explicitly
enable hibernate in XP.

--
Max Demian

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Alan White wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:34:43 +0100, Gary
wrote:

I read this NG a lot and the grammar and spelling and badly written
sentences are rife. However most are tolerated and not commented on.

It used to be considered very poor netiquette to criticise the grammar
and spelling of other posters for obvious reasons.

The motive is important. Is to to help the one who makes mistakes achieve
a better standard, or is it to make the one who points them out feel
superior?

The former also demonstrates superiority, in assuming that the other person
wants to achieve a better standard of grammar.

--
Max Demian

Max Demian wrote:

The motive is important. Is to to help the one who makes mistakes achieve
a better standard, or is it to make the one who points them out feel
superior?

The former also demonstrates superiority, in assuming that the other person
wants to achieve a better standard of grammar.

That doesn't follow. A sports coach might train his subject to do things
he himself is unable to do.

Bill

Gary wrote:
On 27/06/2012 13:41, Peter wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:54:25 +0100, Mark wrote:
On 26/06/2012 10:14, Ian wrote:
snip
She is old enough to have heard all the TV on fire story's. I remember
they seemed like every week when
I was a kid and there were public information films on TV advocating
unplugging the TV.

When you had 20 odd Valves in a TV burning away, fires was common place

There are not many PVR on fire story's.

That's cos there aren't any Valve PVRs

Steve Terry
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In article ,
Steve Terry wrote:
Gary wrote:
On 27/06/2012 13:41, Peter wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:54:25 +0100, Mark wrote:
On 26/06/2012 10:14, Ian wrote:
snip
She is old enough to have heard all the TV on fire story's. I remember
they seemed like every week when
I was a kid and there were public information films on TV advocating
unplugging the TV.

When you had 20 odd Valves in a TV burning away, fires was common place


If you broke off the glass top (carefully) and covered the heater with 3in1
oil, you could get a wonderful smoke candle if it was plugged into a valve
tester with variable heater voltage.

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

In article , Max Demian wrote:

Are you sure it's really going into standby? If during the power up
sequence
from what you think is standby, you see a black screen with a progress bar
and "Resuming Windows", then it's actually been hibernating. "Resuming" in
Windows language means recovering from hibernation, which will mean
reading
lots of stuff from the disk.

No, it talks about going into and out of standby. And you have to explicitly
enable hibernate in XP.

That's what I thought. I have not, to my knowledge, enabled anything to make my
laptop hibernate after it has been in standby for about 5 minutes, and cannot
find any settings for it, yet this is what it does.

I know that this is what it is doing because the next time I switch it on, I
get the "resuming Windows" message. It may have started off in standby but it
has subsequently gone into hibernation. Are you certain this is not what your
computer is doing?

Another possibility, if your computer really is only going into standby, is
that it is a bit short of RAM and so using some swap space on the disk.

Rod.
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http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/

"Roderick Stewart" wrote in
message .myzen.co.uk...
In article , Max Demian wrote:

Are you sure it's really going into standby? If during the power up
sequence
from what you think is standby, you see a black screen with a progress
bar
and "Resuming Windows", then it's actually been hibernating. "Resuming"
in
Windows language means recovering from hibernation, which will mean
reading
lots of stuff from the disk.

No, it talks about going into and out of standby. And you have to
explicitly
enable hibernate in XP.

That's what I thought. I have not, to my knowledge, enabled anything to
make my
laptop hibernate after it has been in standby for about 5 minutes, and
cannot
find any settings for it, yet this is what it does.

I know that this is what it is doing because the next time I switch it on,
I
get the "resuming Windows" message. It may have started off in standby but
it
has subsequently gone into hibernation. Are you certain this is not what
your
computer is doing?

As I said, in XP you have to explicitly enable hibernate (Control
Panel-Power Options-Hibernate) and the OS allocates a chunk of HD equal to
the physical memory, and the "Turn off computer" dialog says you can
hibernate by holding down shift while you click Stand by (I think).

Another possibility, if your computer really is only going into standby,
is
that it is a bit short of RAM and so using some swap space on the disk.

I have no doubt that it is doing stuff like writing back "dirty pages" -
there is certainly disk activity. The question is, why? I accept that
standby is a precarious state and a loss of power will lose edited data not
written back in the same way as power loss when it is running.

--
Max Demian