Electricity falls out of the wall socket

On 27/06/2012 15:30, Tim Streater wrote:
In article ,
Gary wrote:

On 27/06/2012 14:22, J G Miller wrote:
On Wednesday, June 27th, 2012, at 14:14:36h +0100, Gary wrote:

She is old enough to have heard all the TV on fire story's.
I remember they seemed like every week when I was a kid and
there were public information films on TV advocating unplugging
the TV. There are not many PVR on fire story's.

Minor technical point -- the plural of story is stories.

That is not technical. That is grammar. I was indicating possession.

Please indicate how possession comes into it. In fact you were
indicating plural. OK, Rodney?

The story belongs to the TV in the first line and the PVR on the last
point the rule I used was belong to. Now to try and pull a quick note
that makes sense that was written by me is just plain stupid.
Because I cannot spell and I am crap at grammar. I can however normally
get the meaning over and I can do it a lot better than a lot of the
people on here can.
I read this NG a lot and the grammar and spelling and badly written
sentences are rife. However most are tolerated and not commented on.

The original response was typical. This is a TV technical NG and the
poster said Minor technical point. As I said it ain't technical it is
grammar.
Pot calling kettle Black. And it ain't going to stop me getting it
wrong. Cos I am still better at it than a lot of the users of this
Newsgroup.

So

Gary

On 2012-06-27, Gary wrote:
On 27/06/2012 15:30, Tim Streater wrote:
In article ,
Gary wrote:

On 27/06/2012 14:22, J G Miller wrote:
On Wednesday, June 27th, 2012, at 14:14:36h +0100, Gary wrote:

She is old enough to have heard all the TV on fire story's.
I remember they seemed like every week when I was a kid and
there were public information films on TV advocating unplugging
the TV. There are not many PVR on fire story's.

Minor technical point -- the plural of story is stories.

That is not technical. That is grammar. I was indicating possession.

Please indicate how possession comes into it. In fact you were
indicating plural. OK, Rodney?

The story belongs to the TV in the first line and the PVR on the last
point the rule I used was belong to. Now to

Uh, using "story's" means something belongs to the story, not that
the story belongs to something.

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David Taylor

Max Demian wrote:

If standby on XP doesn't write stuff to the disk, why does it take such a
long time to enter (and leave) standby when there are lots of programs
active? About a minute or so on my (admittedly underpowered by modern
standards) XP desktop.

Good question, and I don't know. I didn't say it doesn't write "stuff"
to disk, - I guess it will. But it doesn't write a snapshot of the
machine state (including RAM) to disk. Presumably there's a whole
stack of housekeeping to do before it suspends everything.

I've found XP's standby mode to be more trouble than it's worth - slow
to enter and leave, as you say, and often very unreliable. Windows 7's
sleep mode is brilliant, though - I use it all the time, restarting
only when an OS update demands it.

SteveT

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SteveT

David Taylor wrote:

Uh, using "story's" means something belongs to the story, not that
the story belongs to something.

As you can see, he doesn't take criticism well.

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SteveT

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:34:43 +0100, Gary
wrote:

I read this NG a lot and the grammar and spelling and badly written
sentences are rife. However most are tolerated and not commented on.

It used to be considered very poor netiquette to criticise the grammar
and spelling of other posters for obvious reasons.

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather

In article , Max Demian wrote:
If standby on XP doesn't write stuff to the disk, why does it take such a
long time to enter (and leave) standby when there are lots of programs
active? About a minute or so on my (admittedly underpowered by modern
standards) XP desktop.

Are you sure it's really going into standby? If during the power up sequence
from what you think is standby, you see a black screen with a progress bar
and "Resuming Windows", then it's actually been hibernating. "Resuming" in
Windows language means recovering from hibernation, which will mean reading
lots of stuff from the disk.

I have a laptop which I have set to go to standby when I close the lid, and
in this state the disk and fan stop and only the power light flashes.
Pressing the power button then makes it recover in a few seconds, as you'd
expect. However, if I leave it in standby on battery power, after a few
minutes there's a burst of disk activity and all the lights go off. The next
time I power it up it says "resuming", indicating that what it has done is
go into hibernation.

I've been unable to find a setting for this, just to go to standby when the
lid closes with no mention of what it should do after a further 5 minutes,
but that doesn't mean there isn't one...

Rod.
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On 27/06/2012 17:53, Tim Streater wrote:
In article ,
Gary wrote:

On 27/06/2012 15:30, Tim Streater wrote:
In article ,
Gary wrote:

On 27/06/2012 14:22, J G Miller wrote:
On Wednesday, June 27th, 2012, at 14:14:36h +0100, Gary wrote:

She is old enough to have heard all the TV on fire story's.
I remember they seemed like every week when I was a kid and
there were public information films on TV advocating unplugging
the TV. There are not many PVR on fire story's.

Minor technical point -- the plural of story is stories.

That is not technical. That is grammar. I was indicating possession.

Please indicate how possession comes into it. In fact you were
indicating plural. OK, Rodney?

The story belongs to the TV in the first line and the PVR on the last
point the rule I used was belong to. Now to try and pull a quick note
that makes sense that was written by me is just plain stupid.
Because I cannot spell and I am crap at grammar. I can however
normally get the meaning over and I can do it a lot better than a lot
of the people on here can.

If the story belongs to the TV (or PVR) you'd write it thus (not that
it makes very much sense to do so):

... all the TV's on-fire-stories.

If you're talking about stories about TVs on fire, you'd write it as:

... all the TV-on-fire stories.

You claim that you "normally get the sense over". However, when you
write "The story belongs to the TV in the first line and the PVR on
the last point the rule I used was belong to", I had to read that a
number of times to understand your meaning because you didn't
punctuate it.

I used to see this from time to time at work - people whose writing I
had to read back and forth several times to have any chance of getting
any meaning out of it. And it as supposed to be documentation, too.
This is why grammar is important, spelling perhaps less so for the
most part.

I know I did it deliberately.

In article , Alan White
wrote:
I read this NG a lot and the grammar and spelling and badly written
sentences are rife. However most are tolerated and not commented on.

It used to be considered very poor netiquette to criticise the grammar
and spelling of other posters for obvious reasons.

Is it OK to criticise gratuitous use of the word "obvious"?

Rod.
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Alan White wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:34:43 +0100, Gary
wrote:

I read this NG a lot and the grammar and spelling and badly written
sentences are rife. However most are tolerated and not commented on.

It used to be considered very poor netiquette to criticise the grammar
and spelling of other posters for obvious reasons.

The motive is important. Is to to help the one who makes mistakes
achieve a better standard, or is it to make the one who points them out
feel superior?

Bill

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 19:08:09 +0100, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

Is it OK to criticise gratuitous use of the word "obvious"?

This is Usenet.

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Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather