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Old June 26th 12, 07:44 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff
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Default Electricity falls out of the wall socket

Or in this case, the wrong stuff obviously.

I wonder if he was actually thinking about when you leave a wall wart
plugged in and nothing on the end of it it still uses something?

I have one that was ruined in some odd way by a short duration power cut. It
still sort of give 12v, but the amount of crap on the output means that you
cannot really use it to power anything with an amp in it!

Brian

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I've just heard Alastair Campbell say on TV that if you leave a socket
switched to on with nothing plugged in, it still uses power.


What show what that on?


The Wright Stuff Ch5, just before 10am.
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Old June 26th 12, 08:26 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Steve Thackery[_2_]
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Mark O'Knee wrote:

- PC on standby. Older units can consume up to 10W in this mode.


You might be interested to know that my PC uses exactly the same amount
of power - 6W - whether it's on standby or switched off.

That's because all modern PCs use a "soft off" - it's part of the ATX
spec, I think.

If you don't believe me, try it on your own PC. Plug your power meter
in and start it up. From the Start menu, choose "Sleep". Once you've
measured the sleep power, restart and choose "Shut Down" instead. It's
also the same if you choose the Hibernate option. (These are the W7
commands - the XP ones are worded similarly).

To make it fall to zero you have to switch it off with the physical
switch on the back of the PSU (or unplug the lead if there's no
switch).

I'm sure it will differ between different PSUs. Also, most of those
watts may well be imaginary due to the reactive load offered by the
PSU. The main point, though, is that even though "sleep" maintains the
RAM and "shut down" and "hibernate" don't, the reading is exactly the
same.

Personally I don't give a stuff about 6W - mine stays in sleep mode
when I'm not using it.

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Old June 26th 12, 08:53 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 26/06/2012 19:26, Steve Thackery wrote:

That's because all modern PCs use a "soft off" - it's part of the ATX
spec, I think



There are a whole lot of sleep modes with different power consumptions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance...ower_Interface

Andy
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Old June 26th 12, 09:13 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 10:14:28 +0100, Ian
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I've just heard Alastair Campbell say on TV that if you leave a socket
switched to on with nothing plugged in, it still uses power.


Aye, but he was getting at leaving a wallwart in, the others (being
luvvies) had no inkling of Eeel Eck Trickery and assumed he meant
simply leaving a plug in/not in but if it was switched on the magic
stuff would be used EVEN WITH NOTHING IN THE SOCKET.

I despair, I really do.
Once again, we see the ones who sat up the back of the class in
science/physics at school, idly dreaming of the knickers of the girl
in front or drama class.
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Old June 26th 12, 09:18 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright[_2_]
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David Taylor wrote:

How much a neon indicator consumes, however, may turn out to be
insignificant :-)


Apparently they draw about 1mA, so around 240mW.


That's about as much as all the wind turbines together were generating
last night.

Bill
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Old June 26th 12, 09:22 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright[_2_]
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Mark O'Knee wrote:

Regrettably, most of these things need to stay on all the time, unless
you want the hassle of turning on/off many at night. It's the "curse" of
the modern age,


No, it just means we pay a few pence per year per item for the
advantages of having it on standby. It's good value I think. It
certainly isn't an important issue. It isn't worth discussing really.

Bill
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Old June 26th 12, 09:30 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Ian writes:
In message , Yellow writes
"Ian" wrote in message
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I've just heard Alastair Campbell say on TV that if you leave a socket
switched to on with nothing plugged in, it still uses power.


What show what that on?


The Wright Stuff Ch5, just before 10am.


Bill has his own TV programme now?
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Old June 26th 12, 10:52 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Ian wrote:
I've just heard Alastair Campbell say on TV that if you leave a socket
switched to on with nothing plugged in, it still uses power.

He's thinking of Noo Labour lecky, guaranteed to bankrupt NHS hospitals

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Old June 26th 12, 11:31 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Martin wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 10:14:28 +0100, Ian
wrote:

I've just heard Alastair Campbell say on TV that if you leave a
socket switched to on with nothing plugged in, it still uses power.


A step forward from my gran who thought it poured out onto the floor,
if you left the plug out.

How sadly ignorant

Everyone knows Lecky is lighter than air and so floats away if you leave the
plug out

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