OT Has w7 slowed down recently

On 15/05/2012 20:52, Steve Thackery wrote:
Then buy some good quality silver-loaded thermal paste, apply it
reasonably sparingly, and reattach the heatsink.

_very_ sparingly. You'll be surprised by how little. I know someone
who managed to write off a brand new CPU by squeezing silver paste off
the side.

Andy

Wilf wrote:
On 11/05/2012 10:40, lid (Paul Cummins) wrote:
We were about to embark at Dover, when (Gary)
came up to me and whispered:

Mcafee

And there lies your problem...


Well, not really. I've suffered a noticeable slow-down on my win7
laptop machine lately and was using Kaspersky Internet Security. I
temporarily changed to MSSE ... no difference. Then changed to McAfee
... no difference. The task manager shows single figure CPU usage most
of the time yet the fan is always quite loud and the machine is very slow.

I had a computer years ago that worked perfectly except that everything
took a long time. The fault was something called 'clock speed' I think.
Something was running at half speed. Or something.

Bill

Steve Thackery wrote:


If you are satisfied that the cpu really is idling, and yet the fan is
whistling away, you may well have a heatsink problem.

Could he run a test? Perform a task with the machine cold (just switched
on) and then repeat it after a while when the machine had warmed up? And
what about Freezit?

I had a computer once that had no working fans, and it just kept
freezing. Funny how it kept freezing because it was boiling. Can't
understand that. Funny things, women (it was a female computer; I know
that because my repairman always called it 'Bitch'.)

Bill

Adrian C wrote:

Linux professionals are trained like Doctors.
Windows professionals are trained like Veterinarians. (more complicated
platform)

My GP trained here.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/doctorschool.jpg

Bill

On Tue, 15 May 2012 19:11:02 +0100, Wilf
wrote:

On 11/05/2012 10:40, lid (Paul Cummins) wrote:
We were about to embark at Dover, when (Gary)
came up to me and whispered:

Mcafee

And there lies your problem...


Well, not really. I've suffered a noticeable slow-down on my win7
laptop machine lately and was using Kaspersky Internet Security. I
temporarily changed to MSSE ... no difference. Then changed to McAfee
... no difference. The task manager shows single figure CPU usage most
of the time yet the fan is always quite loud and the machine is very slow.

Fairly classic symptom of clogged up heatsink fins allowing the cpu
to attain a high enough temperature for it to throttle down.
--
Regards, J B Good

On Tuesday, May 15th, 2012, at 18:24:08h +0100, Steve Thackery exploded:

J G Miller wrote:

People have been running a variety of OSes on ARM for
many years now -- RiscOS, Android, Bada, BSD, iOS,
Linux, Plan 9 from Bell Labs, Inferno, Solaris, webOS

You pillock! I'm talking about WINDOWS OSs. rolls eyes

But your statement was not limited to Windows OSes -- it
was a general unspecific reference to OSes.

Furthermore there has already been limited success in getting
some Windows software to run on the ARM architecture using
WINE.

http://wiki.winehq.org/ARM

On Tuesday, May 15th, 2012, at 20:56:26 at +0100, Adrian C wrote:

Linux professionals are trained like Doctors.
Windows professionals are trained like Veterinarians.

I think your analogy is the wrong way around.

Windoze professionals will generally be clueless about
Linsux and BSD systems, whereas Linsux and BSD professionals
will generally have some idea on how to solve Windoze
problems.

Windoze currently only operates on Intel, whereas previous
version operated on Alpha, MIPS, and Power PC architectures.

Linsux and BSD operate on all sorts of architectures
ranging from super computers to that Sheeva plug in your
power receptacle (or even your Samsung or SONY television).

On Tuesday, May 15th, 2012, at 21:31:16h +0100, Bill Wright explained:

The fault was something called 'clock speed' I think.
Something was running at half speed. Or something.

Had somebody knocked the TURBO button on the front
by accident?

http://upload.wikimedia.ORG/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Casebuttons.jpg

Sometimes it would cause the CPU speed to almost halve from 8 MHz to 4.77 MHz.

In message , Johny B Good
writes
On Tue, 15 May 2012 19:11:02 +0100, Wilf
wrote:

On 11/05/2012 10:40, lid (Paul Cummins) wrote:
We were about to embark at Dover, when (Gary)
came up to me and whispered:

Mcafee

And there lies your problem...


Well, not really. I've suffered a noticeable slow-down on my win7
laptop machine lately and was using Kaspersky Internet Security. I
temporarily changed to MSSE ... no difference. Then changed to McAfee
... no difference. The task manager shows single figure CPU usage most
of the time yet the fan is always quite loud and the machine is very slow.

Fairly classic symptom of clogged up heatsink fins allowing the cpu
to attain a high enough temperature for it to throttle down.

The OP said was going to de-fluff the works (on the 11 May). Has there
been any report of what he found?

The first time that I experienced slow operation and crashing when the
CPU was being worked hard, I found the fins of the CPU heatsink were
(like Winnie the Pooh) literally 'stuffed with fluff'.

I find it useful to have available a program which monitors the CPU and
motherboard temperatures, the various voltages, the fan speeds etc. The
one I use is specifically for this motherboard (available free, in my
case, from Asus). However, if a manufacture doesn't provide such a
program, I'm sure there are other non-specific programs which do the
same, for example:
http://majorgeeks.com/Motherboard_Monitor_d311.html
et al.

I usually have the monitor running in the background, and it comes in
handy for checking that the CPU isn't glowing red hot. In fact, it never
really exceeds 48C, even when working flat out for prolonged periods.
--
Ian

"J G Miller" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, May 15th, 2012, at 21:31:16h +0100, Bill Wright explained:

The fault was something called 'clock speed' I think.
Something was running at half speed. Or something.

Had somebody knocked the TURBO button on the front
by accident?

http://upload.wikimedia.ORG/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Casebuttons.jpg

Sometimes it would cause the CPU speed to almost halve from 8 MHz to 4.77
MHz.

I thought the 'turbo' button was to *reduce* the clock speed (whatever it
was - perhaps 66 MHz) *to* 8 MHz, to make early PC games playable.

--
Max Demian