£180M for 4G Interference solution ...

On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:56:42 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Mark [email protected]
lotsofspamanymore.invalid scribeth thus
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:39:40 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Or are they relying on those costs
falling on the public?

Of course.

IIRC the costs of that would fall on the licensee who took that spectrum
on...

That's the moral position and to some extent it has happened in the
past, but can you find any *legal* requirement?

In article , Martin
scribeth thus
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:56:42 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Mark [email protected]
lotsofspamanymore.invalid scribeth thus
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:39:40 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Or are they relying on those costs
falling on the public?

Of course.

IIRC the costs of that would fall on the licensee who took that spectrum
on...

... who would pass them on to the users.

Like what happened with the 3G auctions and the fees they pay for the
mobile spectrum etc..

A tax by another name...
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Tony Sayer

In article ,
lid scribeth thus
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:56:42 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Mark [email protected]
lotsofspamanymore.invalid scribeth thus
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:39:40 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Or are they relying on those costs
falling on the public?

Of course.

IIRC the costs of that would fall on the licensee who took that spectrum
on...

That's the moral position and to some extent it has happened in the
past, but can you find any *legal* requirement?

Don't know Nemo, that was what the Ofcom discussion document said.
I rather expect they have a good legal dept that would have checked
that...


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Tony Sayer

Martin wrote:

tony wrote:

Like what happened with the 3G auctions and the fees they pay for the
mobile spectrum etc..
A tax by another name...

Dutch KPN never really recovered from over bidding for 3G.

The UK networks got into a bidding frenzy in the 3G spectrum auction,
this was declared a triumph for Gordon Brown's treasury, but the cost
crippled the networks profits for years, leading to reduced corporation
tax from them, also reduced income tax as they laid-off thousands of
staff ...

In article , Andy
Burns
wrote:
Martin wrote:

tony wrote:

Like what happened with the 3G auctions and the fees they pay for the
mobile spectrum etc.. A tax by another name...

Dutch KPN never really recovered from over bidding for 3G.

The UK networks got into a bidding frenzy in the 3G spectrum auction,
this was declared a triumph for Gordon Brown's treasury, but the cost
crippled the networks profits for years, leading to reduced corporation
tax from them, also reduced income tax as they laid-off thousands of
staff ...

Is that the excuse Vodaphone have trotted out for dodging so much tax?

Slainte,

Jim

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"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message
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"Terry Casey" wrote in message
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See link:

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2012/...to-fund-4g-tv-
interference-solutions/

or

http://tinyurl.com/86erlnp

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Terry

This sounds like a load of nonsense, working out at over £100 per affected
household.

We have all occasionally heard 3G breaking over into PC's and [landline]
phones when they are close - I can't see why a 4G base station should
cause widespread interference like this.

Even if it is true - a band pass filter costs how much? £7.36p, although
you will need to throw in a couple of coax plugs...

And they install themselves do they?

Or do you need to "call out" an aerial installer (however you define him) at
a minimum charge of what, 75 quid?

tim

Jim Lesurf wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

the 3G spectrum auction,
this was declared a triumph for Gordon Brown's treasury, but the cost
crippled the networks profits for years

Is that the excuse Vodaphone have trotted out for dodging so much tax?

We'll see how much is raised by the 800MHz auction (hopefully) this
year. Any bets? I'll stick my pin at £5bn ...

tim.... wrote:
"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message
...
"Terry Casey" wrote in message
...
See link:

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2012/...to-fund-4g-tv-
interference-solutions/

or

http://tinyurl.com/86erlnp

--

Terry
This sounds like a load of nonsense, working out at over £100 per affected
household.

We have all occasionally heard 3G breaking over into PC's and [landline]
phones when they are close - I can't see why a 4G base station should
cause widespread interference like this.

Even if it is true - a band pass filter costs how much? £7.36p, although
you will need to throw in a couple of coax plugs...

And they install themselves do they?

Passive filters won't do this job anyway if the top channels are in use
for TV.

Bill

In message , Bill Wright
writes
tim.... wrote:
"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message
.. .
"Terry Casey" wrote in message
...
See link:

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2012/...to-fund-4g-tv-
interference-solutions/

or

http://tinyurl.com/86erlnp

--
Terry
This sounds like a load of nonsense, working out at over £100 per
affected household.

We have all occasionally heard 3G breaking over into PC's and
[landline] phones when they are close - I can't see why a 4G base
station should cause widespread interference like this.

Even if it is true - a band pass filter costs how much? £7.36p,
although you will need to throw in a couple of coax plugs...
And they install themselves do they?

Passive filters won't do this job anyway if the top channels are in use
for TV.

But do 'active' filters exist at these frequencies?
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Ian

Ian Jackson wrote:

Passive filters won't do this job anyway if the top channels are in
use for TV.

But do 'active' filters exist at these frequencies?

Yes.

Bill