Solar flare threatens to disrupt Earth's communications and power

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 08:50:02 +0100, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

As the DofE said a couple of nights ago "voluntary family limitation".
There should be a sliding scale of financial penalties which may or may
not help, but it would be a step in the right direction.

There is effectively a scale of financial penalties already, in the
simple fact that it costs more to support a large family than a small
one. It doesn't seem to be working very well though.

Obviously the financial multiplier needs increasing somewhat.
Tax benefits for those with 0 or 1, small penalties for 2, and increasingly
larger ones for 3 and up.
There was some disgusting yank (I think) on the telly a couple of weeks
ago who was on number 20. That is just so wrong...

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:46:14 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

IMO the whole world economy is still very vulnerable and teetering on the
brink of something really unpleasant, I noticed that 'German exports fell by
5.5pc from the previous month - the biggest decline since a 6.5pc drop in
January 2009' and America still appears to be stuck in an economic rut that
it shows little signs of being able to pull itself out of.
The likelihood is that things are simply going to go on getting worse,
unless there is a dramatic fall in energy and commodity prices (which is at
the bottom of all of this) the only way I see this happening is if there is
a severe decrease in global economic activity leading to a lowering in
demand, however when economic activity starts to pick up it will have the
effect of once again driving up the cost of commodity and energy prices, a
kind of economic tidal ebb and flow.
Perhaps the only real solution is that we'll simply have to accept the fact
that from now on we will have to adapt to completely different lifestyles
and expectations, no matter who we vote for.

Unfortunately the whole western consumer economy of the last 50 years has been
based on getting people to buy crap that they don't need - more stupid gadgets,
another widescreen TVs, more clothes, more cars, you name it. Aside from the
enviromental consequences its an edifice that inevitably will collapse because
eventually it will get to the point where people simply don't want any more
and/or 1 single gadget will cover the role that half a dozen did previously
- eg the smartphone, internet TVs - with a consequential drop in overall sales.

It would also help if economists dragged themselves away from their obsession
with "economic growth". As if somehow thats a solution to any of the worlds
problems. Its not. Its actually the path to an enviromental catastophe.

Indeed. It is the ultimate pyramid selling scheme. And we all know what
happens to those in the end...

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:23:59 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

http://www.greentechmedia.COM/articles/read/Space-the-Next-Frontier-For-Renewable-Power/

Fortunately they are not proposing to use long leads. The collector
panels will generate electricity which will feed a radio transmitter
which will beam the waves to a receiver on the surface.

The greenies who rant on about mobile phone radiation are going to wet
themselves rather seriously about that then!

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:45:36 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

Stop worrying - there's no point. This country is going down the toilet and
there's nothing we can do about it. Even if by a miracle some politicians
with some discernable balls got into power - instead of the gutless sacks of
**** we have on both sides of the house these days who genuflect at the alter
of progressive liberalism - its too late to divert this ship from hitting
the reef and sinking with all hands.

Is it being so cheerful that keeps you going?

No, I think you'll find it's prunes...

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:23:38 GMT, Paul Ratcliffe
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:23:59 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

http://www.greentechmedia.COM/articles/read/Space-the-Next-Frontier-For-Renewable-Power/

Fortunately they are not proposing to use long leads. The collector
panels will generate electricity which will feed a radio transmitter
which will beam the waves to a receiver on the surface.

The greenies who rant on about mobile phone radiation are going to wet
themselves rather seriously about that then!

They can protect themselves with tinfoil helmets. That should be fine
except perhaps in thunderstorms.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

In message on Tue, 14 Jun 2011
00:54:29 +0100
Peter Duncanson wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:23:38 GMT, Paul Ratcliffe
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:23:59 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

http://www.greentechmedia.COM/articles/read/Space-the-Next-Frontier-For-Renewable-Power/

Fortunately they are not proposing to use long leads. The collector
panels will generate electricity which will feed a radio transmitter
which will beam the waves to a receiver on the surface.

The greenies who rant on about mobile phone radiation are going to wet
themselves rather seriously about that then!

They can protect themselves with tinfoil helmets. That should be fine
except perhaps in thunderstorms.

Perhaps they will need specially modified helmets?

They are already having problems with these new fangled DTV transmissions ...

http://www.cockeyed.com/incredible/c...er/box01.shtml

--

Terry

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember hwh
saying something like:

Well why do we bother with tidal flow power generation then? Why not go
to the source? Drive a shaft into the earth at the north pole and use
its rotation to power a huge dynamo. It's so obvious. It would only mean
tipping the dynamo on end so its axle was vertical. Or you could use
gears even.

:-)

(for some of you: and what do you think would stop the generator from
turning as fast as the earth?)

Pah. A long bracing pylon running to Mars, obviously.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
saying something like:

Though I never quite understood why there is a bulge on both the near
_and the far_ side.

Bad diet and sedentary lifestyle.

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:18:02 +0100, Terry Casey
wrote:

In message on Tue, 14 Jun 2011
00:54:29 +0100
Peter Duncanson wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:23:38 GMT, Paul Ratcliffe
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:23:59 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

http://www.greentechmedia.COM/articles/read/Space-the-Next-Frontier-For-Renewable-Power/

Fortunately they are not proposing to use long leads. The collector
panels will generate electricity which will feed a radio transmitter
which will beam the waves to a receiver on the surface.

The greenies who rant on about mobile phone radiation are going to wet
themselves rather seriously about that then!

They can protect themselves with tinfoil helmets. That should be fine
except perhaps in thunderstorms.

Perhaps they will need specially modified helmets?

They are already having problems with these new fangled DTV transmissions ...

http://www.cockeyed.com/incredible/c...er/box01.shtml

Inventive!

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:09:58 GMT
Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:46:14 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:
It would also help if economists dragged themselves away from their obsession
with "economic growth". As if somehow thats a solution to any of the worlds
problems. Its not. Its actually the path to an enviromental catastophe.

Indeed. It is the ultimate pyramid selling scheme. And we all know what
happens to those in the end...

A very good analogy. I'll have to remember that!

B2003