Solar flare threatens to disrupt Earth's communications and power

In message on Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:57:12 +0100
Max Demian wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Peter wrote:

My father nwas in a protected occupation, but that bwasn't a guarantee
against being called up - as he found out in 1940

No, they ate into the reserved occupations as circumstances dictated.

Surely if everyone of military age had been called up (a) there would have
been far too many soldiers, and (b) a lot of everyday jobs back home would
have been undone.

Didn't the concept of reserved occupations come about because of experience
during WWI?

The early concept of the Pals Brigade and the clamour to join up that ensued
meant that companies found themselves bereft of virtually their entire work
force overnight, no matter how vital their production was to the war effort.

Of course, once women had been trained to do the skilled work, the men could be
released to fight, just like everybody else.

--

Terry

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:08:58 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

Peter wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:14:16 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:


No-one forced the working classes to leave the fields and go down the
mines.
Bevin boys?


Few Bevin Boys were recruited from farms because in general agriculture
was a protected occupation.

My father nwas in a protected occupation, but that bwasn't a guarantee
against being called up - as he found out in 1940

No, they ate into the reserved occupations as circumstances dictated.

Oh agreed. My fathers occupation was such that the RAF felt they had a
call on him
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Cheers

Peter

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On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:30:55 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

Much better idea is to make all the men
in Africa and such places use rubber johnnies every time they have sex.
Any that refuse, just cut their knobs off.

... and give them work as aerial installers. Is there any possibility
that perhaps this conversation could remain even remotely on topic or
relevant to either of the digital TV and broadcast groups which it is
currently being sprayed across?

--

Zero Tolerance wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:30:55 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

Much better idea is to make all the men
in Africa and such places use rubber johnnies every time they have sex.
Any that refuse, just cut their knobs off.

.. and give them work as aerial installers. Is there any possibility
that perhaps this conversation could remain even remotely on topic or
relevant to either of the digital TV and broadcast groups which it is
currently being sprayed across?

To be realistic, no.

Bill

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:12:53 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

Zero Tolerance wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:30:55 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

Much better idea is to make all the men
in Africa and such places use rubber johnnies every time they have sex.
Any that refuse, just cut their knobs off.

.. and give them work as aerial installers. Is there any possibility
that perhaps this conversation could remain even remotely on topic or
relevant to either of the digital TV and broadcast groups which it is
currently being sprayed across?

To be realistic, no.

Agreed.

Also I doubt whether all of the present regulars would hang around
uk.tech.digital-tv ready to answer technical questions if they were
unable to indulge in general chit-chat while waiting.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

On 11/06/2011 00:16, Bill Wright wrote:

The enclosures didn't mean that the farms could operate without labour.

Didn't they turn a lot of the land over to sheep? Sheep need a whole
lot less labour than arable.

Andy

On 11/06/2011 14:50, Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:11:58 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

Ah, related to spaghettification!

Indeed so.

Though I never quite understood why there is a bulge on both the near
_and the far_ side.

This attempts to explain:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tides#Forces


Well I reckon I understand, and I don't understand that.

The Earth is being accelerated towards the (Sun/Moon) by gravity. The
nearest part is being accelerated more than the middle, so it's pulled
upwards. The furthest part is being accelerated less, so it's left behind.

As we're in orbit we never actually _arrive_ at the Sun, but the effect
is the same.

Andy

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:13:13 +0100 (BST), Dave Liquorice
wrote:

This true but only cover 0.1% of the land area and you still have
45.2 Terra Watts. Total UK energy demand (electricity, gas, oil,
everything else etc) is reckoned to be only 0.3 Terra Watts. UK
electricity only, peak, mid winter, is about 0.06 Terra Watts.

Oh dear, there are still people in this thread who are mixing up
power and energy, which is hardly a clever basis on which to argue.
Not just your good self though...

Not convinced Paul. Care to expand on where I have gone wrong in the
calculations 'cause I can't see it. I admit to struggling so help is
required.

"Total UK energy demand is... 0.3 Terra Watts".

Your units are power, yet you are apparently referring to energy.
Power != Energy, despite the lack of understanding of most journalists.

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 02:15:56 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

Since when did the diameter of any two bodies have any influence on
the gravitational force between them?
Since when? Are you saying that physical laws can change with time?

No, that's the whole point. It never has been.

What did you teach again? Not phsysics?

1. No, I taught spelling. Did you mean fizziks?

Fizzicks.

2. What's happened to your well-known sense of fun?

It evaporated in the summer rain and cold chill.

Did my North Pole power generation idea not tip you the hint that I
was not entirely serious?

I wondered where you were going to get a cable long enough to tap off
the power, how big the drum would be it would have to come on, how it
was going to get there (you know what delivery drivers are like) and
what you'd do with it afterwards.
Seeing as they're always wood, I suppose you could cut it up and stick
it in a brazier like they did on the picket lines in the 70s to keep warm.
That would solve the energy problem. Simple, innit, when you think it
through?

In article ,
Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

"Total UK energy demand is... 0.3 Terra Watts".

Your units are power, yet you are apparently referring to energy.
Power != Energy, despite the lack of understanding of most journalists.

Absolute drivel.

Total UK cheese demand is 5 million tons per year. (I made that up.)

If I said "UK energy demand is X Joules" you would rightly ask "in
what period?" The demand for something is naturally expressed as the
amount of it required per unit time. So energy demand has units of
power.

-- Richard