Access to a Satellite Dish: EU says every individual must have that opportunity

Anti-Spam wrote:

I understood there was a limit on the dish size in Spain (without planning
permission or whatever) that effectively prevented reception of 'UK'
satellites?

Not heard that before, do you know where that infomation came from?
What is the size limit?

UK planning rules limit antennas to 1m as their maximum dimension (less
for the second one). Beyond that you need formal planning permission.
There is also a 35 litre limit. Planning consent is always required for
the third, on a low block of flats, or an ordinary house.

http://www.communities.gov.uk/docume...drantennas.pdf

Most public sector and housing association blocks of flats violate the
limit on numbers.

On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 08:40:51 +0000, David Woolley
wrote:

Anti-Spam wrote:

I understood there was a limit on the dish size in Spain (without planning
permission or whatever) that effectively prevented reception of 'UK'
satellites?

Not heard that before, do you know where that infomation came from?
What is the size limit?

UK

English.
planning rules

Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have their own planning laws
which do not inevitably copy English legislation.
Scottish legislation deals with "microwave antennas" not "satellite
dishes" and the various information quoted as the content of the
proposed 2011 order does not measure by the diameter of the dish but
rather by the protrusion from the outer wall of a building.

limit antennas to 1m as their maximum dimension (less
for the second one). Beyond that you need formal planning permission.
There is also a 35 litre limit. Planning consent is always required for
the third, on a low block of flats, or an ordinary house.

http://www.communities.gov.uk/docume...drantennas.pdf

Most public sector and housing association blocks of flats violate the
limit on numbers.

On 02/12/2011 00:39, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 08:40:51 +0000, David Woolley
wrote:

Anti-Spam wrote:

I understood there was a limit on the dish size in Spain (without planning
permission or whatever) that effectively prevented reception of 'UK'
satellites?

Not heard that before, do you know where that infomation came from?
What is the size limit?

UK

English.
planning rules

Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have their own planning laws
which do not inevitably copy English legislation.
Scottish legislation deals with "microwave antennas" not "satellite
dishes" and the various information quoted as the content of the
proposed 2011 order does not measure by the diameter of the dish but
rather by the protrusion from the outer wall of a building.

limit antennas to 1m as their maximum dimension (less
for the second one). Beyond that you need formal planning permission.
There is also a 35 litre limit. Planning consent is always required for
the third, on a low block of flats, or an ordinary house.

http://www.communities.gov.uk/docume...drantennas.pdf

Most public sector and housing association blocks of flats violate the
limit on numbers.


The orders and advice I found for Scotland suggests
similar limits to English ones, except that blocks of
flats (outwith designated areas) are permitted 4
dishes, but only 2 of them on the frontage. This is
perhaps aimed at the large number of tenement
buildings in many Scottish towns and cities.

Also, 2 of the antennas on such buildings can be up to
130 cm in length. I wonder why that limit was chosen,
and only for flats.

The limits also seem to apply to the curtilage of a
building, so would include any ground-mounted dishes.

On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:19:22 +0000, James wrote:

On 02/12/2011 00:39, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 08:40:51 +0000, David Woolley
wrote:

Anti-Spam wrote:

I understood there was a limit on the dish size in Spain (without planning
permission or whatever) that effectively prevented reception of 'UK'
satellites?

Not heard that before, do you know where that infomation came from?
What is the size limit?

UK

English.
planning rules

Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have their own planning laws
which do not inevitably copy English legislation.
Scottish legislation deals with "microwave antennas" not "satellite
dishes" and the various information quoted as the content of the
proposed 2011 order does not measure by the diameter of the dish but
rather by the protrusion from the outer wall of a building.

limit antennas to 1m as their maximum dimension (less
for the second one). Beyond that you need formal planning permission.
There is also a 35 litre limit. Planning consent is always required for
the third, on a low block of flats, or an ordinary house.

http://www.communities.gov.uk/docume...drantennas.pdf

Most public sector and housing association blocks of flats violate the
limit on numbers.


The orders and advice I found for Scotland suggests
similar limits to English ones, except that blocks of
flats (outwith designated areas) are permitted 4
dishes, but only 2 of them on the frontage. This is
perhaps aimed at the large number of tenement
buildings in many Scottish towns and cities.

Also, 2 of the antennas on such buildings can be up to
130 cm in length. I wonder why that limit was chosen,
and only for flats.

The limits also seem to apply to the curtilage of a
building, so would include any ground-mounted dishes.

The equivalent advice leaflet for Northern Ireland is:
http://www.planningni.gov.uk/index/a...13_aerials.pdf

It does not mention blocks of flats specifically but "Buildings of 15
metres or more in height".

Unless your building is in a designated area, you do not need to
apply for planning permission to install an antenna on your
property, as long as:
* there will be no more than four antennas on the building
overall;
* the size of any antenna is not more than 130 centimetres in
any linear dimension (not including any projecting feed
element, reinforcing rim, mounting and brackets);
* the cubic capacity of each individual antenna is not more
than 35 litres;
* an antenna fitted onto a chimney stack is not more than 60
centimetres in any linear dimension; and
* an antenna mounted on the roof does not stick out above the
roof more than 300 centimetres above the highest part of the
roof.

If such a building is in a "designated area" there is the additional
requirement:

* an antenna is not installed on a chimney, wall, or roof slope
which faces onto, and is visible from, a road.


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:19:22 +0000, James wrote:

On 02/12/2011 00:39, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 08:40:51 +0000, David Woolley
wrote:

Anti-Spam wrote:

I understood there was a limit on the dish size in Spain (without planning
permission or whatever) that effectively prevented reception of 'UK'
satellites?

Not heard that before, do you know where that infomation came from?
What is the size limit?

UK

English.
planning rules

Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have their own planning laws
which do not inevitably copy English legislation.
Scottish legislation deals with "microwave antennas" not "satellite
dishes" and the various information quoted as the content of the
proposed 2011 order does not measure by the diameter of the dish but
rather by the protrusion from the outer wall of a building.

limit antennas to 1m as their maximum dimension (less
for the second one). Beyond that you need formal planning permission.
There is also a 35 litre limit. Planning consent is always required for
the third, on a low block of flats, or an ordinary house.

http://www.communities.gov.uk/docume...drantennas.pdf

Most public sector and housing association blocks of flats violate the
limit on numbers.


The orders and advice I found for Scotland suggests
similar limits to English ones, except that blocks of
flats (outwith designated areas) are permitted 4
dishes, but only 2 of them on the frontage. This is
perhaps aimed at the large number of tenement
buildings in many Scottish towns and cities.

Also, 2 of the antennas on such buildings can be up to
130 cm in length. I wonder why that limit was chosen,
and only for flats.

The limits also seem to apply to the curtilage of a
building, so would include any ground-mounted dishes.

AFAIAA the limits elsewhere apply to the relevant portion of land
anyway even if that is not explicitly stated.

On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 08:40:51 +0000, David Woolley
wrote:

UK planning rules limit antennas to 1m as their maximum dimension (less
for the second one). Beyond that you need formal planning permission.
There is also a 35 litre limit.

But won't all leak through the holes?


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