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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , Graham. wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when
the drugs began to take hold. I remember Trevor
saying something like:

So to summarise, you think we should give out trade information
like how to enter the service mode in your Samsung lcd do you??

Why not? As a recent purchaser of a Samsung LCD, I was able to find
exactly that information on the web within a day of casually
searching for it. Your desire to keep a closed shop of knowledge in
the days of the internet is nothing more than an attempt to ****
against the wind.


With some sets its possible to bollix up the data in the EEPROM so as
to make the set inoperable.

How would you do that using the service menus? Or do you have some
other method in mind?

Years ago I discovered how to put my 8mm Canon Camcorder into service
mode, it was simply a pad on the remote control PCB that had no
corresponding button. No intervention on the camera itself was required.
I experimented with various settings, recording the original values of
course. Many of the settings had the potential to effectively brick the
camera.

Can you explain how you knew this (*without* doing so to find out too
late)
and give an example or two? I am genuinely interested.

IIRC You also would have had to dissasemble or physically alter the remote
to access this. Is that correct?

My curiosity is because Ian seems to be reporting an example where no such
physical change or dissassebly may be needed. I can't tell, though, if he
insists on not giving any details about what he has claimed.


There aren't many details to pass on - Hitachi UK go much further than
merely unhelpful they are actively as obstructive as possible!

In article ,
Trevor wrote:

Give out trade information for Christ's sake, what planet are you
on????

Bring back the guilds! How else will we keep our superiority in
bronze working?

-- Richard

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message ...
In article , Graham. wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when
the drugs began to take hold. I remember Trevor
saying something like:

So to summarise, you think we should give out trade information
like how to enter the service mode in your Samsung lcd do you??

Why not? As a recent purchaser of a Samsung LCD, I was able to find
exactly that information on the web within a day of casually
searching for it. Your desire to keep a closed shop of knowledge in
the days of the internet is nothing more than an attempt to ****
against the wind.


With some sets its possible to bollix up the data in the EEPROM so as
to make the set inoperable.

How would you do that using the service menus? Or do you have some
other method in mind?

Years ago I discovered how to put my 8mm Canon Camcorder into service
mode, it was simply a pad on the remote control PCB that had no
corresponding button. No intervention on the camera itself was required.
I experimented with various settings, recording the original values of
course. Many of the settings had the potential to effectively brick the
camera.

Can you explain how you knew this (*without* doing so to find out too late)
and give an example or two? I am genuinely interested.

IIRC You also would have had to dissasemble or physically alter the remote
to access this. Is that correct?

My curiosity is because Ian seems to be reporting an example where no such
physical change or dissassebly may be needed. I can't tell, though, if he
insists on not giving any details about what he has claimed.

Slainte,

Jim

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Sorry for not replying sooner Jim, I just rediscovered this thread.
I can't remember what prompted me to open the R/C, perhaps I had spilt coffee over it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/5679434239/
I was intrigued to find a secret button, so I experimented, you can see the red wires
soldered to the corresponding row/column of the matrix.

The camera no longer works, the manner of its demise indicative of the failure of one
or more of the many surface-mount electrolytics. My attempts at repair were unsuccessful
but any suggestions of likely specific components on the Canon E200 gratefully received as I
have many hours of 8mm tape that requires digitising.

The service menu options revealed had no English descriptions, just a row number and
operand IIRC one adjustment I remember seemed to set the sensitivity of the CCD and
was adjustable to the extent of rendering the camera only able to output blacks & syncs or peak white & sync at the other end of the
range, a little like the beam control on a vidicon camera.

I said *effectively* brick the camera. As long as you have access to the service mode
you could AFAIK change the parameters back to how they were, but I wasn't being too cavalier
with my then prized possession, in case it was possible to do damage or lock myself out!




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Graham.

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