DSO question

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Mark wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 04:36:20 -0800 (PST),
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wrote:

Oh, and I have a colleague who reuses to buy a new TV until his
existing one breaks. Simple as that. Not spending a penny until he has
to. Mind you, he didn't even take a free freeview box that just needed
a £5 replacement remote control. Some people aren't interested.

It's a good philosopy to only replace things when they break. It's
one of the failings of our consumer society that we continually
upgrade and chuck working products away.

wrt DTT, then people who aren't interested in the extra channels have
little to gain from "going digital" while they still have an analogue
service.

and with the 405 closure, I met a couple who only watched BBC1 for the Nine
O'Clock News and didn't see why they should throw away a perfectly good set.

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charles wrote:


and with the 405 closure, I met a couple who only watched BBC1 for the Nine
O'Clock News and didn't see why they should throw away a perfectly good set.

Funny to think that with today's technology a converter box to make a
405 set work on 625 would cost bugger all.

Bill

On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:37:45 +0000, Mark
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:03:58 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Rick wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Rick wrote:

I couldn't think of a single person using analogue, years before
Mendip went DSO.

I came across a bloke in a nice house with five of them living in it,
and they had analogue only, and the C5 was obliterated by the VCR RF
output. He was a total nutter though, and I think the kids were living
for the day when they could move out.


I've been out of the trade now for a number of years Bill, however I
still occasionally keep in touch with the local branch of one of the
largest aerial wholesalers in the country, apparently since DSO the
aerial side of things have died a death and according to friends in the
business it's mainly only the lower power COM muxes that still provide
them with any aerial work, that, retuning, extra outlets etc, however,
without wishing to sound too pessimistic, I reckon after mid 2012 even
that work will eventually taper off.
I'm still amazed by the coverage now the PSB multiplexes are on full
power, I pick up rock solid (BBC) reception on the side of a group C/D
aerial from a group A transmitter (Stockland Hill) located around 50
miles away, back in the seventies with a masthead amplifier and the
correct roof mounted aerial I could receive just about watchable
Westward ITV analogue, until they built an office block in the town
centre and it then became unwatchable, of course it was much more
exciting getting out of region ITV programmes back then

Yes, I think the power of the post DSO-transmitters is far too high.
Apart from CCI issues I can receive Winter Hill here, yet in the
analogue days it was a barely discernible signal.

I had to fit an attenuator for DTT and that's before the power is
boosted. God knows what will happen after DSO.

Fit two.

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Mark wrote:

Judging from the amount of nagging that has been going on for years I
would have thought that everyone who cares would have already done
something about it well before switchover ;-)

I've been looking closely at the issue of the 'analogue' rump -- the
people who are still using analogue exclusively as DSO approaches -- in an
East Midlands town, and I'm actually struggling to find any candidates! I
think it's something like 1%, six months before DSO. However, if you ask
people, quite a few will say they need to get a digital box, yet it turns
out that they are using an IDTV. If the official figure of 93 - 97% is
based on asking people rather than actually looking at their TV equipment,
that's why it's wrong.

On a different job I recently had people telling me that they had Sky or
cable, yet it turned out that they had DTT. And one gentleman had a very
nice HDR but was unaware that he could record programmes on it.

And a local businessman recently paid me two bottles of decent wine to go
round and 'empty' his HD HDR.

Bill

My 96 year old aunt in York still insists on watching analogue BBC1 etc.
despite having a widescreen TV and is quite happy watch a picture that is
considerable smaller than the TV screen. I really wish they'd switch the
Emley Moor analogue channels off.
Regards Mike.

"Mike GW8IJT" wrote in message
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Mark wrote:

Judging from the amount of nagging that has been going on for years I
would have thought that everyone who cares would have already done
something about it well before switchover ;-)

I've been looking closely at the issue of the 'analogue' rump -- the
people who are still using analogue exclusively as DSO approaches -- in
an East Midlands town, and I'm actually struggling to find any
candidates! I think it's something like 1%, six months before DSO.
However, if you ask people, quite a few will say they need to get a
digital box, yet it turns out that they are using an IDTV. If the
official figure of 93 - 97% is based on asking people rather than
actually looking at their TV equipment, that's why it's wrong.

On a different job I recently had people telling me that they had Sky or
cable, yet it turned out that they had DTT. And one gentleman had a very
nice HDR but was unaware that he could record programmes on it.

And a local businessman recently paid me two bottles of decent wine to go
round and 'empty' his HD HDR.

Bill

My 96 year old aunt in York still insists on watching analogue BBC1 etc.
despite having a widescreen TV and is quite happy watch a picture that is
considerable smaller than the TV screen. I really wish they'd switch the
Emley Moor analogue channels off.
Regards Mike.


She has had a Freeview box for years BTW and it works well on the odd
occasions she actually uses it!
Mike.

Mike GW8IJT wrote:

My 96 year old aunt in York still insists on watching analogue BBC1 etc.
despite having a widescreen TV and is quite happy watch a picture that is
considerable smaller than the TV screen. I really wish they'd switch the
Emley Moor analogue channels off.
Regards Mike.

I hate to put ideas into your head, but I am considering de-tuning every
analogue preset on our kitchen TV set, because I keep finding father
watching analogue. It comes to my attention because he complains about
the lack of subtitles.

And incidentally, when I look at the analogue channels they are pretty
horrible. Out aerial looks straight at Emley Moor which is clearly
visible, yet C5 is consistently 12dB down and, inexplicably, had a clear
and highly visible ghost a third of the way across the screen the other
night. Dunno what they're doing at Emley.

Bill