ITV1+1 Testing

From another forum, from a normally reliable poster:-

Quote:-

Currently testing on DSat and available through add channels

All of the ITV1 regions have an ITV1+1 DOG.

10891H 22.0 5/6
10125 - UTV (not delayed) with the EPG now/next an hour out
10145 - ITV1+1 Central
10155 - ITV1+1 London No audio at present.

10906V 22.0 5/6
10225 - STV+1 (no DOG)
10255 - ITV1+1 Granada
10265 - ITV1+1 Meridian

12402V 27.5 2/3 (presumably encrypted)
12165 - ITV1+1 Yorkshire(wrong aspect ratio)

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To make room for HD channels, the "idiots in charge" removed ITV
3 & ITV 4 from the line-up.

The Rabbit channels are aimed at a minority audience - and you
could probably count the number of local viewers on the fingers
of one hand. Furthermore, it makes no sense whatsoever to retain
any of the +1 channels (and/or minority interest channels), where
the local transmitter has insufficient capacity to carry all of
the mainstream channels.



As a result of this flawed decision, viewers in many rural
communities in Cumbria were obliged to install satellite, to
receive ITV 3 & ITV 4.


Prolly simpler to do that in the first place;!...
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Tony Sayer

Bob Lucas wrote:

As a result of this flawed decision, viewers in many rural communities
in Cumbria were obliged to install satellite, to receive ITV 3 & ITV 4.

In fact once DSO is completed nationally, 10% of the population will not be
able to receive ITV 3 and 4 terrestrially.

You're right, it's an idiotic situation, and before J G Miller jumps in and
gives us all a lecture on the fact that there are no 'PSB' requirements to
retain ITV 3 and 4 on all transmitters, and +1 and shopping gunk is more
lucrative blah, blah, blah, I don't care. There's limited bandwidth on DTT
so those useless muppets at Ofcom should *regulate* the platform, and
effectively ensure that a sensible limited selection of channels is available.

Another thing to consider, is there would have been plenty of room on DTT for
HD services, if it wasn't so clogged up with ****e. We wouldn't have needed to
launch DVB-T2 either. It's obvious you can only sustain a limited number of
services commercially on DTT, so actually, without all the floss we could have
remained at T1 for all six muxes.


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Mark Carver wrote:
Bob Lucas wrote:

As a result of this flawed decision, viewers in many rural communities
in Cumbria were obliged to install satellite, to receive ITV 3 & ITV 4.

In fact once DSO is completed nationally, 10% of the population will not
be able to receive ITV 3 and 4 terrestrially.

You're right, it's an idiotic situation, and before J G Miller jumps in
and gives us all a lecture on the fact that there are no 'PSB'
requirements to retain ITV 3 and 4 on all transmitters, and +1 and
shopping gunk is more lucrative blah, blah, blah, I don't care. There's
limited bandwidth on DTT
so those useless muppets at Ofcom should *regulate* the platform, and
effectively ensure that a sensible limited selection of channels is
available.
Bandwidth is a national resource, and as such should be used in a way
that benefits the public the most. That should be the number one rule,
and commercial considerations should be made to fit round it. I'm sure
that in such an environment plenty of money would still be made.

Bill

On Thursday, December 30th, 2010 at 15:46:46h +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Bandwidth is a national resource, and as such should be used in a way
that benefits the public the most. That should be the number one rule,
and commercial considerations should be made to fit round it.

And this is exactly the point I have always made.

Unless you bother to elect legislators who are going to enact a policy
of public interest rather then commercial market deregulation, then the
current light touch regulator OfCon with the mandate to adjust conditions
to enable commercial organisations to maximize their revenue, nothing is
going to change from the current situation of a plethora of +1 stations,
teleshopping and telephone prostitution services.

In message , Bob Lucas
wrote

receive ITV 3 & ITV 4.

Aren't they going to drop ITV2, ITV3 and ITV4 on SD so they can launch
the HD versions as a subscription only service on Sky(HD)?
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Alan wrote:
In message , Bob Lucas
wrote

receive ITV 3 & ITV 4.

Aren't they going to drop ITV2, ITV3 and ITV4 on SD so they can launch
the HD versions as a subscription only service on Sky(HD)?

They have already launched ITV2,3,and 4 on Sky HD (subs only).

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On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 14:16:43 -0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

Bob Lucas wrote:

As a result of this flawed decision, viewers in many rural communities
in Cumbria were obliged to install satellite, to receive ITV 3 & ITV 4.

snip
Another thing to consider, is there would have been plenty of room on
DTT for HD services, if it wasn't so clogged up with ****e. We wouldn't
have needed to launch DVB-T2 either. It's obvious you can only sustain a
limited number of services commercially on DTT, so actually, without all
the floss we could have remained at T1 for all six muxes.


It's those of us on relays with just 3 muxes that noticed it most when the
limited range of programming available to us on local launch was cut back
even further (the +1 channels do not provide any additional programming -
a delay provides nothing new). In that 3 week period during which DTT
started and analogue ended there was a significant increase in the number
of dishes in this small area but the local aerial bod saw no extra
workload and even the £40 switchover help scheme had only one taker for
DTT.

JonPhred