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Old December 12th 10, 11:53 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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In message , Graham.
writes

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
.. .
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember J G Miller saying
something like:

On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 00:36:28 +0000, Peter Duncanson wrote:

The Granada name now appears to be owned by ITV plc.

A corporation cannot own the name of a city and province.


Hah. Ford would beg to differ.

I seem to recall there was a court case. Presumably Granada TV lost.


Indeed, they also failed to shut down "Granada Dry Cleaning" on Bridge
Street, despite them using the same typeface for the sign over the door.

I think that the OP means that the trademark "Granada Television" is now
owned by ITV
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  #52  
Old December 13th 10, 12:38 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Mark Carver wrote:
Thames adopted MII rather before that. Seems it made the IBA spec
whereas BetaSP didn't.


Yes, I remember that. Anglia also adopted MII, I can't remember exactly
when the IBA mandated its use for non news applications ?


I don't think they had to. It bettered their spec for full broadcast use.
Allegedly.

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Old December 13th 10, 12:42 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article ,
Jerry wrote:

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
: Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
: In article ,


snip
:
: Thames adopted MII rather before that. Seems it made the IBA
spec whereas
: BetaSP didn't.
:
: Yes, I remember that. Anglia also adopted MII, I can't remember
exactly when
: the IBA mandated its use for non news applications ?
:


So why did MII fail out of favour?


Rather it never came into favour in the UK. Sony eventually got their own
back for the VHS/Betamax war. And of course Digibeta became virtually
universal later on.

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Old December 13th 10, 02:03 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:44:48 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

The IBA never allowed the use of Beta or U-Matic
formats for anything other than news. It was only around 1988 that the use of
BetaSP was relaxed for promos and other non news applications. ISTR the Beeb
adopted a similar approach ?


We started using BetaSP in 1991 for recording network programmes, both
studio based and on our then newly built (by Sony IIRC) type 7 scanner
(the year before was 1" C format all round).
That was only a few months after we started using it for news.
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Old December 13th 10, 07:41 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 19:19:47 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

Thames adopted MII rather before that. Seems it made the IBA spec whereas
BetaSP didn't.


Yes, I remember that. Anglia also adopted MII, I can't remember exactly when
the IBA mandated its use for non news applications ?


I remember doing work for Anglia in the 1991/2 period and having to
hire in an M2 machine to do that work.

A side issue was that the M2 machine would not work well when
autoconforming. It was found out that the M2 machines conformed
absolutely to the Sony RS422 protocol, whereas Sony's own machines
did not and our New England Digital software relied on Sony's
deviation from its own standard. :-) I can't remember the exact
problem but it was something like a bit or byte being set to zero
which the M2 machines did and the Sony machines didn't. :-)

Probably getting way off topic now. :-)

Jim.
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Old December 13th 10, 07:56 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Mark Carver wrote:
Thames adopted MII rather before that. Seems it made the IBA spec
whereas BetaSP didn't.


Yes, I remember that. Anglia also adopted MII, I can't remember exactly
when the IBA mandated its use for non news applications ?


I don't think they had to. It bettered their spec for full broadcast use.
Allegedly.


Yes, the operative word is indeed Allegedly, ;-)

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Old December 13th 10, 07:59 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

So why did MII fail out of favour?


Rather it never came into favour in the UK. Sony eventually got their own
back for the VHS/Betamax war. And of course Digibeta became virtually
universal later on.


Anglia and Thames were the only UK users of MII. In the rest of Europe only a
handful of broadcasters adopted it. I can't remember how popular it was in
NTSC countries, similar to Europe I think ?



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Old December 13th 10, 11:53 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
...

snip
: Used to love The Bill but gave up a long time ago
: when it started focusing on personal relationships rather the
police
: work which made it so attractive to me.

Indeed, if ever a once great drama lost its way, by the end, the
re-runs of "The Sweeny" on ITV4 had more policing within each
episode - or so it seemed!... :~(
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Old December 13th 10, 11:54 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Ian Jelf wrote:
The scenes where Sally Webster was comforting the other girl were
unintelligible in parts. Had that been a normal recording they'd have been
ADR'd.


I'm sure you're right. However, what we actually saw was - I would
contend - all the more realistic for its unintelligibility!


Right. It's a view, I suppose. Doubt the actors involved played it that
way, though.

I might be prejudiced, but I reckon the last live 'Bill' was the best
live drama shown in recent years.


Didn't see that. Used to love The Bill but gave up a long time ago
when it started focusing on personal relationships rather the police
work which made it so attractive to me.


It had somewhat moved away from the time when they shagged or murdered one
another buy the time of the second live one. ;-) But never got close to
the feel of the original.

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Old December 13th 10, 11:58 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Ian Jelf wrote:
I might be prejudiced, but I reckon the last live 'Bill' was the best
live drama shown in recent years.


Didn't see that. Used to love The Bill but gave up a long time ago
when it started focusing on personal relationships rather the police
work which made it so attractive to me.


Just to add, I gave up on Corrie when they started to concentrate on eye
candy rather than acting, and never went back to it. The live one was the
first I've watched in many years. And didn't really see much to make me
change my mind.

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