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Old December 12th 10, 04:16 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 00:36:28 +0000, Peter Duncanson wrote:

The Granada name now appears to be owned by ITV plc.


A corporation cannot own the name of a city and province.
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Old December 12th 10, 04:26 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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There was only one time the filming was stopped mid-lecture and that is when the lecturer was doing the classic
bromine-diffusion-in-a-glass-tube demonstration and managed to leak bromine everywhere - most notably onto the hands of
long-suffering assistant (Eric Coates, IIRC) who muttered a few choice words about the lecturer's parentage which were picked up
perfectly by his personal mike! With a resigned look (because this was not the first mishap with this lecturer) the stage manager
stood up waving his hands and stopped things. There was a pause while the bromine was cleared up and a new covering was put on the
famous desk with its semi-circular cutout for the lecturer to stand in. Eric was also taken away to have his burns tended to, and
reappeared with his fingers bandaged. The experiment was re-run, with the rest of the lecture following on from that. The final
broadcast had a very noticeable jump-cut during which the table changed colour and Eric's hands suddenly acquired bandages :-)


Yes I remember Mr Coates, and also another Eric, Prof. Eric Laithwaite, he of the linier induction motors.


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Old December 12th 10, 04:38 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:28:48 -0000, "Mortimer" wrote:

long-suffering assistant (Eric Coates, IIRC)


He was another Bill - William Coates.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...s-1511972.html

WITH the passing of William Coates the scientific community in
Britain has lost one of its most loved and unusual characters.
Generations of schoolchildren saw him in action either live in the
lecture theatre of the Royal Institution, in London, or on
television. His skills as an improviser, dextrous manipulator, and,
at times, human guinea pig or acrobat were exceptional. But beneath
the professional, unpretentious showmanship there was the shrewd,
inventive technician who, in record time, could translate inchoate
or incompletely formulated ideas by a new lecturer into an
exhilarating spectacle.
....
....
Coates had a great fund of stories, encompassing his days as a
parachutist, near-misses while handling circuits carrying hundreds
of amps, temperamental X-ray sources or capriciously explosive gas
mixtures. But the one that used to bring him out in a sweat was his
recollection of the occasion in 1965 when a glittering array of
Nobel Laureates came to the RI to celebrated the 50th anniversary of
Bragg's Nobel prize. Bragg's (gold) Nobel medal was on display in
the library. But in the preparation of the exhibits Coates had laid
down the medal on a drop of mercury and so it gained an unsightly
stain. The bullion merchants Johnson-Matthey were hurriedly
contacted by phone; and they prescribed the exact temperature of the
heat-treatment required to drive off the mercury. Coates claimed
that he lost several years of his life before the medal emerged in
its pristine glory from the oven. 'I never told Sir Lawrence what
had happened.'
....
....


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Old December 12th 10, 04:51 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:25:32 +0000, Mark Carver
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Mark,

I suspect picture quality had something to do with it.


ISTR news footage was largely exempt from picture and sound quality concerns.
Yes, early ENG pictures were lousy, but so was much of the rapidly processed
film footage.


Not where I came from :-) News and Current Affairs film quality was
supposed to be shot to as high standards as possible and a lot of the
time, that meant the cameraman having a harder job because of the
much reduced exposure latitude of the reversal stock.

But I agree with Charles about quality being the possible reason for
the perceived delay in the BBC's implentation of PSC. I remember
going to a meeting in Glasgow in 1979 to see and hear about the new
Ikegami camera, and most of the meeting was devoted to looking at
test cards, etc. :-)

Also, for a large operation like the BBC, there would be the capital
cost of installing a large amount of electronic equipment - especially
the post production gear.

Documentary editing equipment was installed in BBC Bristol in 1988, It
was BetaSP and we had to wait on our editing gear till after the Seoul
Olympics in that year. :-)

Jim.
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Old December 12th 10, 05:00 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 15:26:34 -0000, "Graham." wrote:



There was only one time the filming was stopped mid-lecture and that is when the lecturer was doing the classic
bromine-diffusion-in-a-glass-tube demonstration and managed to leak bromine everywhere - most notably onto the hands of
long-suffering assistant (Eric Coates, IIRC) who muttered a few choice words about the lecturer's parentage which were picked up
perfectly by his personal mike! With a resigned look (because this was not the first mishap with this lecturer) the stage manager
stood up waving his hands and stopped things. There was a pause while the bromine was cleared up and a new covering was put on the
famous desk with its semi-circular cutout for the lecturer to stand in. Eric was also taken away to have his burns tended to, and
reappeared with his fingers bandaged. The experiment was re-run, with the rest of the lecture following on from that. The final
broadcast had a very noticeable jump-cut during which the table changed colour and Eric's hands suddenly acquired bandages :-)


Yes I remember Mr Coates, and also another Eric, Prof. Eric Laithwaite, he of the linier induction motors.


I was working at Manchester University in the early 1960s (on the Atlas
computer). I worked on the top floor of the Electrical Engineering
building (Dover Street). Eric Laithwaite's laboratory was on a lower
floor. Someone took me on an informal tour of it. He had an experimental
version of his linear motor propulsion system with an office chair
fitted on the flat carriage that ran along the track. I didn't see a
demonstration of it. I would have politely declined an opportunity to
ride on it -- I had noticed that the wooden double door directly in line
with the end of the track was severely damaged!

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Old December 12th 10, 05:03 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 15:16:07 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 00:36:28 +0000, Peter Duncanson wrote:

The Granada name now appears to be owned by ITV plc.


A corporation cannot own the name of a city and province.


It can own the name for other uses.

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Old December 12th 10, 05:38 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Jerry"
saying something like:


Silliest moment, got to have been "Fizz" giving birth (very
premature, thus very small baby...), at one point I started
wondering, was she pretending to have a baby or were the crew or
talent actually cutting her leg off without antithetic off
camera, such were her over zealous screams! :~(


I don't recall her making such a racket when the kid was put there.
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Old December 12th 10, 05:44 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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Jim Guthrie wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:25:32 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

Mark,

I suspect picture quality had something to do with it.

ISTR news footage was largely exempt from picture and sound quality concerns.
Yes, early ENG pictures were lousy, but so was much of the rapidly processed
film footage.


Not where I came from :-) News and Current Affairs film quality was
supposed to be shot to as high standards as possible and a lot of the
time, that meant the cameraman having a harder job because of the
much reduced exposure latitude of the reversal stock.


Indeed, but for news the quality of much of the footage is out of the control
of the broadcaster anyway. If the technical quality of footage had to be of a
high standard, we'd have never have seen the Moon landing, (to take an extreme
example) ;-)

I was involved in acceptance tests (as a manufacturer) by both BBC and ITV
companies, of ENG kit in the mid-late 1980s, and both organisations were
equally hard to please (and quite right that they were). The IBA Code of
Practice did acknowledge that news footage should maintain as high as possible
technical quality, but did concede, for the reasons I mention that that may
not always be possible. The IBA never allowed the use of Beta or U-Matic
formats for anything other than news. It was only around 1988 that the use of
BetaSP was relaxed for promos and other non news applications. ISTR the Beeb
adopted a similar approach ?


But I agree with Charles about quality being the possible reason for
the perceived delay in the BBC's implentation of PSC. I remember
going to a meeting in Glasgow in 1979 to see and hear about the new
Ikegami camera, and most of the meeting was devoted to looking at
test cards, etc. :-)


I do recall seeing the BBC's first experimental 'on air' ENG use, that was the
1979 election campaign, so that sounds about the right timescale

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Old December 12th 10, 05:51 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember J G Miller saying
something like:

On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 00:36:28 +0000, Peter Duncanson wrote:

The Granada name now appears to be owned by ITV plc.


A corporation cannot own the name of a city and province.


Hah. Ford would beg to differ.
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Old December 12th 10, 06:04 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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In message , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember J G Miller saying
something like:

On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 00:36:28 +0000, Peter Duncanson wrote:

The Granada name now appears to be owned by ITV plc.


A corporation cannot own the name of a city and province.


Hah. Ford would beg to differ.


What about Vauxhall?
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