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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:38:03 +0100, Albert Ross
wrote:

. . .the BHF shop locally won't touch electricals, I thought this was
a legal/H&S issue?

All second hand electrical goods have to be tested before sale. If
the shop has a volunteer who is competant to do so then they can sell
them but if they have to pay someone to do it them the cost would make
it uneconomic.

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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:38:03 +0100, Albert Ross
wrote:

. . .the BHF shop locally won't touch electricals, I thought this was
a legal/H&S issue?

All second hand electrical goods have to be tested before sale. If
the shop has a volunteer who is competant to do so then they can sell
them but if they have to pay someone to do it them the cost would make
it uneconomic.

And its a charity shop the BHF, so perhaps in all our interests to
patronise it;!...
--
Tony Sayer

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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:31:37 +0100, "Graham." wrote:



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A: The ex Woolworth store in Cheetham Hill, Manchester.
Now a British Heart Foundation charity shop.

http://bbbbbbmm.netfirms.com/tv.jpg

Don't forget Cash Converters and the tip.
The local one by me is full of the things - none of the charity shops
will take anything electrical.

Yes, it's refreshing to have one that specialises in brown and white
goods.
There are a couple of local domestic appliance con-merchants who I will
be glad to see go out of business.

I bought a fridge from one such in Bristol. When it didn't work they
told me to turn it upside down . . .

. . .the BHF shop locally won't touch electricals, I thought this was
a legal/H&S issue?


and did that fix it?
that is a known thing to do.
Gary

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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:38:03 +0100, Albert Ross
wrote:

. . .the BHF shop locally won't touch electricals, I thought this was
a legal/H&S issue?

All second hand electrical goods have to be tested before sale. If
the shop has a volunteer who is competant to do so then they can sell
them but if they have to pay someone to do it them the cost would make
it uneconomic.

And if it fails the test they have to pay for its disposal (as commercial
waste).

--
Max Demian

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:11:38 +0100, "Gary"
wrote:


"Albert Ross" wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:31:37 +0100, "Graham." wrote:


There are a couple of local domestic appliance con-merchants who I will
be glad to see go out of business.

I bought a fridge from one such in Bristol. When it didn't work they
told me to turn it upside down . . .

and did that fix it?
that is a known thing to do.

No but getting my money back (eventually) and buying a working fridge
from a reputable secondhand shop worked a treat. That went for a
decade or two, lasted longer than a recent "new" one

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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:31:37 +0100, "Graham." wrote:



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"Graham." wrote in message ...

A: The ex Woolworth store in Cheetham Hill, Manchester.
Now a British Heart Foundation charity shop.

http://bbbbbbmm.netfirms.com/tv.jpg

Don't forget Cash Converters and the tip.
The local one by me is full of the things - none of the charity shops will take anything electrical.

Yes, it's refreshing to have one that specialises in brown and white goods.
There are a couple of local domestic appliance con-merchants who I will
be glad to see go out of business.

I bought a fridge from one such in Bristol. When it didn't work they
told me to turn it upside down . . .

. . .the BHF shop locally won't touch electricals, I thought this was
a legal/H&S issue?


and did that fix it?
that is a known thing to do.
Gary

Is it? I thought that was the one thing you shouldn't do. If they are transported lying down
you are advised to leave them standing upright and not to plug them in for a couple of days.
Even then I think it's a bit iffy.
Maybe that's the point, perhaps if it has been wrongly transported, the oil in the compressor
might not flow back to its correct location due to an airlock, in that case you would have nothing
to lose by rolling it over etc. Anyone know the facts about this?

--
Graham.

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On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:49:50 +0100, Graham. wrote:

told me to turn it upside down . . .

. . .the BHF shop locally won't touch electricals, I thought this was
a legal/H&S issue?


and did that fix it?
that is a known thing to do.
Gary

Is it? I thought that was the one thing you shouldn't do. If they are transported lying down
you are advised to leave them standing upright and not to plug them in for a couple of days.
Even then I think it's a bit iffy.
Maybe that's the point, perhaps if it has been wrongly transported, the oil in the compressor
might not flow back to its correct location due to an airlock, in that case you would have nothing
to lose by rolling it over etc. Anyone know the facts about this?

It probably will work with an old absorbtion type but CFCs and on will get
blocked by oil in the capillary tube that runs from the compressor to the
evaporator. As the tube is very narrow (it acts as a 'jet' across which the
refrigerant expands) removing the oil can be difficult.
The fridge chap that did our units at work trid to unblock one with CO2 at
about 80 Bar and it failed - he didn't dare try other gases at 200Bar+!
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

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On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:49:50 +0100, Graham. wrote:

told me to turn it upside down . . .

. . .the BHF shop locally won't touch electricals, I thought this was
a legal/H&S issue?


and did that fix it?
that is a known thing to do.
Gary

Is it? I thought that was the one thing you shouldn't do. If they are
transported lying down
you are advised to leave them standing upright and not to plug them in
for a couple of days.
Even then I think it's a bit iffy.
Maybe that's the point, perhaps if it has been wrongly transported, the
oil in the compressor
might not flow back to its correct location due to an airlock, in that
case you would have nothing
to lose by rolling it over etc. Anyone know the facts about this?

It probably will work with an old absorbtion type but CFCs and on will get
blocked by oil in the capillary tube that runs from the compressor to the
evaporator. As the tube is very narrow (it acts as a 'jet' across which
the
refrigerant expands) removing the oil can be difficult.
The fridge chap that did our units at work trid to unblock one with CO2 at
about 80 Bar and it failed - he didn't dare try other gases at 200Bar+!
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway


If you have a fridge that is not working . Try turning it upside down and
back upright and if it is a 'air lock' ( i know it it not air) it may fix
it.

I have had success twice with this method

I did have a fridge that used a heater rather than a compressor and it
worked . ( same principle as a gas fridge) .

On the other hand what harm will it do. You cant make it worse!

Gary

On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:57:12 +0100, Gary wrote:

"PeterC" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:49:50 +0100, Graham. wrote:

told me to turn it upside down . . .

. . .the BHF shop locally won't touch electricals, I thought this was
a legal/H&S issue?


and did that fix it?
that is a known thing to do.
Gary

Is it? I thought that was the one thing you shouldn't do. If they are
transported lying down
you are advised to leave them standing upright and not to plug them in
for a couple of days.
Even then I think it's a bit iffy.
Maybe that's the point, perhaps if it has been wrongly transported, the
oil in the compressor
might not flow back to its correct location due to an airlock, in that
case you would have nothing
to lose by rolling it over etc. Anyone know the facts about this?

It probably will work with an old absorbtion type but CFCs and on will get
blocked by oil in the capillary tube that runs from the compressor to the
evaporator. As the tube is very narrow (it acts as a 'jet' across which
the
refrigerant expands) removing the oil can be difficult.
The fridge chap that did our units at work trid to unblock one with CO2 at
about 80 Bar and it failed - he didn't dare try other gases at 200Bar+!
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway


If you have a fridge that is not working . Try turning it upside down and
back upright and if it is a 'air lock' ( i know it it not air) it may fix
it.

I have had success twice with this method

I did have a fridge that used a heater rather than a compressor and it
worked . ( same principle as a gas fridge) .

On the other hand what harm will it do. You cant make it worse!

That is true! If it's junk as it is, then any method is worth trying.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway