Time for a new TV...

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:07:22 +0100, "Max Demian"
wrote:

"Graham C" wrote in message
.. .

We're always being told to feed the audio through an amp and decent
speakers for good results. Several models I looked at only had
optical output. Scarts are also disappearing from the latest models.

You need a brochure to get this information.

You can usually download a PDF of the user manual, which gives more
information than most brochures.


I recently bought a Samsung LE32C530. It has every socket under the
sun, including USB, and it has an optical audio output. It has only
one Scart, labelled "input". I discovered that the Scart also
functions as an output, and in fact gives the video and audio signal
from the built in tuner, even if the TV is set for an input from
another source. Strangely, there is no mention of this in the user
manual.

So it might be worth a shot!

I wonder if the C5800In message
, Peter Duncanson
writes
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:07:22 +0100, "Max Demian"
wrote:

"Graham C" wrote in message
. ..
Visited Panasonic, Sony and Samsung dealers over last few days.

Only Panasonic now do brochures. Sony stated their websites provides
everything you need to know.

Yesterday I was impressed by the Samsung UE32C530U in JL but their
price is very expensive. Bumped into an ex-work friend there, who
reckoned the Philips 32PFL9705 had the best flesh tones he'd ever
seen. I had to agree, but the £1,300 was a no-no.

Today I saw a Samsung UE32C6620 in Richer Sounds and wondered how it
compared with the above Sammy. There is no mention of it on their
website! Why - evidently it's been available for a while?

We're always being told to feed the audio through an amp and decent
speakers for good results. Several models I looked at only had
optical output. Scarts are also disappearing from the latest models.

You need a brochure to get this information.

You can usually download a PDF of the user manual, which gives more
information than most brochures.

Out of casual interest I looked on the Samsung UK website for info about
the UE32C6620. No results. The nearest I could find is the UE32C5800.

The only result with "C6620" in it is a mobile phone.

I wonder if the C5800 is related to this one,

Samsung LE32C580 32 inch TV Freeview HD

£345.95

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/201103

It might be cheaper here, and it's free delivery.


--
Ian

On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:46:57 +0100, Graham C
wrote:


Today I saw a Samsung UE32C6620 in Richer Sounds and wondered how it
compared with the above Sammy. There is no mention of it on their
website! Why - evidently it's been available for a while?

Very quick reply via their 'Contact Us'
Quote:
'We advise that you visit our website www.samsung.com/uk and enter the
following model code UE32C6600 as it has the same specifications as
the UE32C6620 the only difference between them is a cosmetic
difference.'

This helps to explain why their are countless numbers of models in the
shops.

The Scart could just solve the problem re' audio out' , as half an
hour on the web spent exploring the various SPDIF / TOS / coax / phono
conversion box options blew my mind.

GrahamC

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:04:52 +0100, Graham C wrote:

On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:46:57 +0100, Graham C
wrote:

Today I saw a Samsung UE32C6620 in Richer Sounds and wondered how it
compared with the above Sammy. There is no mention of it on their
website! Why - evidently it's been available for a while?

Very quick reply via their 'Contact Us'
Quote:
'We advise that you visit our website www.samsung.com/uk and enter the
following model code UE32C6600 as it has the same specifications as
the UE32C6620 the only difference between them is a cosmetic
difference.'

This helps to explain why their are countless numbers of models in the
shops.

It gets annoying when the nos. seem to imply functional differences but just
mean grey instead of black.

The Scart could just solve the problem re' audio out' , as half an
hour on the web spent exploring the various SPDIF / TOS / coax / phono
conversion box options blew my mind.

GrahamC

Hadn't thought of that, but atm I'd have to use the old sat. box via the
SCART. Apart from classical music, I'm not too fussy about sound so long as
it's clear and not boxy/boomy.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

One of the main reasons for the different model numbers is for
price matching - or rather avoiding it.

A model number in Curry's may be a digit or two different from
the identical set in Comet or JL or Argos or whatever. You then
ask for a price match and get told it is a different model, where
in fact the only difference is the label!

If you are buying 20000 units per year or £6-8m in old money -
and that is the sort of turnover of the bigger sheds - you carry
quite a bit of clout if you threaten to stop selling ALL of a
manufacturers products if they won't co-operate - and I talking
here of 20K in TV's only. Look at Samsung and see what else the
likes of DSG sell - cameras, stereos, mp3, computers, even white
goods - and that is real clout!



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Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

In message , Woody
writes
One of the main reasons for the different model numbers is for
price matching - or rather avoiding it.

A model number in Curry's may be a digit or two different from
the identical set in Comet or JL or Argos or whatever. You then
ask for a price match and get told it is a different model, where
in fact the only difference is the label!

If you are buying 20000 units per year or £6-8m in old money -
and that is the sort of turnover of the bigger sheds - you carry
quite a bit of clout if you threaten to stop selling ALL of a
manufacturers products if they won't co-operate - and I talking
here of 20K in TV's only. Look at Samsung and see what else the
likes of DSG sell - cameras, stereos, mp3, computers, even white
goods - and that is real clout!

Things were the same in the 50's and 60's, when many TV sets were
essentially identical inside, but had different cases, and were sold
under different manufacturers' names. For example, you had Ultra
(utility model, plasticky), Ferguson (middling, chipboard, simulated
wood iron-on veneer) and HMV (luxury, sometimes real veneer). All made
by Thorn.
--
Ian

In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Woody
writes
One of the main reasons for the different model numbers is for
price matching - or rather avoiding it.

A model number in Curry's may be a digit or two different from
the identical set in Comet or JL or Argos or whatever. You then
ask for a price match and get told it is a different model, where
in fact the only difference is the label!

If you are buying 20000 units per year or £6-8m in old money -
and that is the sort of turnover of the bigger sheds - you carry
quite a bit of clout if you threaten to stop selling ALL of a
manufacturers products if they won't co-operate - and I talking
here of 20K in TV's only. Look at Samsung and see what else the
likes of DSG sell - cameras, stereos, mp3, computers, even white
goods - and that is real clout!

Things were the same in the 50's and 60's, when many TV sets were
essentially identical inside, but had different cases, and were sold
under different manufacturers' names. For example, you had Ultra
(utility model, plasticky), Ferguson (middling, chipboard, simulated
wood iron-on veneer) and HMV (luxury, sometimes real veneer). All made
by Thorn.

but - according to Which? - Ferguson's colour sets were much more reliable
than HMV's. Go figure.

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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16

In message , charles
writes
In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Woody
writes
One of the main reasons for the different model numbers is for
price matching - or rather avoiding it.

A model number in Curry's may be a digit or two different from
the identical set in Comet or JL or Argos or whatever. You then
ask for a price match and get told it is a different model, where
in fact the only difference is the label!

If you are buying 20000 units per year or £6-8m in old money -
and that is the sort of turnover of the bigger sheds - you carry
quite a bit of clout if you threaten to stop selling ALL of a
manufacturers products if they won't co-operate - and I talking
here of 20K in TV's only. Look at Samsung and see what else the
likes of DSG sell - cameras, stereos, mp3, computers, even white
goods - and that is real clout!

Things were the same in the 50's and 60's, when many TV sets were
essentially identical inside, but had different cases, and were sold
under different manufacturers' names. For example, you had Ultra
(utility model, plasticky), Ferguson (middling, chipboard, simulated
wood iron-on veneer) and HMV (luxury, sometimes real veneer). All made
by Thorn.

but - according to Which? - Ferguson's colour sets were much more reliable
than HMV's. Go figure.

Well, it could have been better ventilation in the case.

I still haven't forgotten that my ultra-reliable Sony 18" had four
faults in the first year - the first after only three weeks.
--
Ian

In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:

[Snip]


but - according to Which? - Ferguson's colour sets were much more
reliable than HMV's. Go figure.

Well, it could have been better ventilation in the case.

Size of sample - only 2 of their members had HMVs and one developed a fault
- so: 50% failure rate. Mine went wrong, too. Dry joint on power
transistor external to main board.

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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16

PeterC said...

It gets annoying when the nos. seem to imply functional differences but just
mean grey instead of black.

These days sometimes these model number differences just denote the
different types of moulded on AC plug for the various markets, wimpish
Johnny Foreigner could panic if faced with the stout British 3 pin and
blow the house up trying to force it into their namby pampby two pin
outlets.


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Ken O'Meara
http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/