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Old September 14th 10, 11:13 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
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In High Wycombe, at (I believe) a Cancer charity shop, selling only
electrical and furniture where Dixons used to be, you can pick up a large
16:9 CRT set for £30 to £40. 14" 4:3 sets are £20. There's a whole wall of
TV sets, all on, showing the same programme. It's nice to see so many
pictures, all with more-or-less the same contrast, brightness and colour.
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i have a loewe aconda 32" in my back bedroom that i can't bear to throw
away -cost me £1000 about 8 years back.



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Old September 15th 10, 12:56 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
Surely there are loads of 16:9 CRT sets (even though most of them are
hernia jobs)?


But also with decent geometry? And registration?

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Old September 15th 10, 01:00 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
In High Wycombe, at (I believe) a Cancer charity shop, selling only
electrical and furniture where Dixons used to be, you can pick up a
large 16:9 CRT set for £30 to £40. 14" 4:3 sets are £20. There's a whole
wall of TV sets, all on, showing the same programme. It's nice to see so
many pictures, all with more-or-less the same contrast, brightness and
colour.


Local FreeCycle group has all sorts of CRT sets every day. By the lack of
'taken' posts most aren't wanted.

Took me three goes to get rid of a mint Panny 21" 4:3 - NICAM, 2 SCARTS,
16:9 switchable, and complete with original handbook.

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Old September 15th 10, 08:50 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:00:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
In High Wycombe, at (I believe) a Cancer charity shop, selling only
electrical and furniture where Dixons used to be, you can pick up a
large 16:9 CRT set for £30 to £40. 14" 4:3 sets are £20. There's a whole
wall of TV sets, all on, showing the same programme. It's nice to see so
many pictures, all with more-or-less the same contrast, brightness and
colour.


Local FreeCycle group has all sorts of CRT sets every day. By the lack of
'taken' posts most aren't wanted.

Took me three goes to get rid of a mint Panny 21" 4:3 - NICAM, 2 SCARTS,
16:9 switchable, and complete with original handbook.


looks as if a hundred quid trade-in might be better - if one wants another
telly /and/ from a supplier that's suitable.
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Old September 15th 10, 11:44 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In message , tony sayer
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In article , Ian Jackson ianREMOVET
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In message , Andy
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Ian Jackson wrote:

Surely there are loads of 16:9 CRT sets (even though most of them are
hernia jobs)?

Supposedly you can't give them away ...

No, there are always a few at the local 'recycling centre'. I even took
a perfectly working Sony 24" 4:3 there myself.

In High Wycombe, at (I believe) a Cancer charity shop, selling only
electrical and furniture where Dixons used to be, you can pick up a
large 16:9 CRT set for £30 to £40. 14" 4:3 sets are £20. There's a whole
wall of TV sets, all on, showing the same programme. It's nice to see so
many pictures, all with more-or-less the same contrast, brightness and
colour.


Was round a mates last nite they have a 16:9 Sony, dunno which model but
very good pix on there all the same nice skin tones and colour
rendering.. His opinion was that there're keeping that till it goes pop
and don't see the need to go and spank the cash on a LCD whilst the CRT
ones working fine!...


And, of course, winter draw(er)s on. CRT sets usually consume more than
LEDs, so continuing to use it will help offset the central heating bills
(which, because of the change to CFL bulbs, may have gone up a little).
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Old September 15th 10, 01:05 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 13 Sep, 22:47, "theoldplucker"
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You cannot upgrade from a CRT. I have never seen an lcd or plasma yet which
is good enough to surpass a CRT and that is with experience of working in
the trade for nearly 30 years. Just have to wait until something better
comes out. These OLED or laser sets are taking a long time to be released on
general sale !


Don't hold your breath...

Sony had three otherwise similar CRT, LCD, and OLED professional
monitors on display side-by-side at IBC. They had them in a completely
blacked out space, which made the leaking backlight of the LCD quite
obvious. It was a blatant attempt to show you how superior OLED was.

These were broadcast grade monitors, displaying a variety of test
signals and challenging real content - all uncompressed (or at least,
no broadcast-level MPEG). They'd been set up very well, and all the
luma and chroma ramps looked identical on all three (except the pure
black on the LCD). They were only small monitors, and on the
resolution test charts, the CRT couldn't match the resolution of the
OLED display.

They had a motion test sequence, including someone on a jet ski, and
very fast scrolling text - both pin-sharp. If you followed the
scrolling text with your eye, the CRT really was pin-sharp; the LCD
was rather blurred, and the OLED was about half way between the two.

So, better, but not perfect. There wasn't a PDP in the comparison.

It's the old challenge of eye-tracked motion on an "always on" display
- it doesn't work until you use a very high frame rate with motion-
interpolation (which itself causes artefacts).

Ignoring eye-tracked fast motion, and viewing in black-out conditions,
any of the three displays was far better than you'd see in a typical
living room - but then they ought to be.

Cheers,
David.
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Old September 15th 10, 03:28 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:42:26 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

Was round a mates last nite they have a 16:9 Sony, dunno which model but
very good pix on there all the same nice skin tones and colour
rendering.. His opinion was that there're keeping that till it goes pop
and don't see the need to go and spank the cash on a LCD whilst the CRT
ones working fine!...


I wanted to keep my CRT but, at 24", it's a bit small for a lot of the progs
that I like: athletics, Tour de France, gymnastics etc. where there are a
lot of people on at once. In some cases, such as track events, the runners
are about 2" high - and me eyes aren't getting any younger!
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Old September 15th 10, 06:11 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Norman Wells" wrote in message
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The dog from that film you saw wrote:

i have a loewe aconda 32" in my back bedroom that i can't bear to
throw away -cost me £1000 about 8 years back.


Are you sure the back bedroom isn't in your 32" Loewe Aconda? The sizes
can't be much different.




you should have seen the fun and games getting it in the house, and then
getting it out again when i moved - my parents refused to ever touch it
again!
but it's only 80kg was my reply.....



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you fight better when you have a bear!

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Old September 15th 10, 06:12 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
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And, of course, winter draw(er)s on. CRT sets usually consume more than
LEDs, so continuing to use it will help offset the central heating bills
(which, because of the change to CFL bulbs, may have gone up a little).
--
Ian





i have a 26 inch sharp lcd that has 2 fans and pumps out a fair bit of
warmth - i've made sure every one i've got since is fanless.



--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....
http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com
you fight better when you have a bear!

 




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