Footie from SA - how?

"Mark Opolo" wrote in message
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I turn me TV on and watch what comes up. I don't give a hoot where or how
it comes. Does it really matter. I am watching the footy in HD and it
looks good to me. What does not look good is the England play............I
have seen Southampton reserves play more exciting footy then them.

F***ing stupid of you to try and answer the question then.

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On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 11:44:17 +0100, "Mark Opolo"
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"Petert" wrote in message
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Anyone got any idea how the video of the footie matches are
transported from SA to the UK?

Are there two streams, one for SD and one for HD?

What sort of capacity is needed?

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I think there must be cos ITV1 (SD) did not cut after 4 minutes.

Surely that was a problem local to the UK. Adverts would not be
inserted
in either stream, SD or HD, before sending it from SA to UK.

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I have no idea and does it matter anyway. You always a picky ****er.

Are the BBC and ITV just using FIFA's SD and HD streams and then adding
the
commentary and any DOGs at this end?

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I turn me TV on and watch what comes up. I don't give a hoot where or how
it
comes. Does it really matter. I am watching the footy in HD and it looks
good to me.

Fair enough. But if you are not interested in the technical details why
are your bothering to read this technical newsgroup which is all about
the picky details of digital TV?

What does not look good is the England play............I have
seen Southampton reserves play more exciting footy then them.

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Mark Fraser wrote:


Are the BBC and ITV just using FIFA's SD and HD streams and then adding the
commentary and any DOGs at this end?

HBS, a German outfit have organised the TV coverage in SA. They provide
international
programme feeds to all the rights holders. There will be 'raw' SD and HD feeds,
with bookable commentary circuits, as a 'basic' service.

However in common with other large international broadcasters with 'an
interest' in the matches the Beeb and ITV have set up their own studios, and
production facilities in SA. The Beeb's is in Cape Town, ITV's in JoBurg. In
addition both broadcasters have a couple of their own cameras at each venue,
for customised presentation. However the circuits to and from the studios,
venues, and links back to London are still provided by HBS. The hub for all of
that activity the the IBC (International Broadcast Centre) in Joburg. Most of
the broadcasters, who are presenting from studios in SA, have those studios in
or close to the IBC.

There's some general information and diagrams he-

http://www.hbs.tv/orientation/


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On Jun 13, 2:19*pm, Silk wrote:

On 13/06/2010 11:42, Petert wrote:
Anyone got any idea how the video of the footie matches are
transported from SA to the UK?

Are there two streams, one for SD and one for HD?

What sort of capacity is needed?

It starts off as proper HD gets sent to ITV as SD and they upscale it
and pretend it's HD.

Traditionally they insert an advert during play as well.

"Brian Gregory [UK]" wrote in message
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"Mark Opolo" wrote in message
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I turn me TV on and watch what comes up. I don't give a hoot where or how
it comes. Does it really matter. I am watching the footy in HD and it
looks good to me. What does not look good is the England
play............I have seen Southampton reserves play more exciting footy
then them.

F***ing stupid of you to try and answer the question then.

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Brian Gregory. (In the UK)

To email me remove the letter vee.


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On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 13:48:27 +0100, "Woody"
wrote:

"Petert" wrote in message
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Anyone got any idea how the video of the footie matches are
transported from SA to the UK?

Are there two streams, one for SD and one for HD?

What sort of capacity is needed?

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Cheers

Peter



New fibre up the Indian Ocean.

There is an interesting item on it in this week's Click on BBC
News

But they would have to get the video to the cablehead - in Kenya?

Then they would have to take it off the new Indian Ocean cable to pick
up a cable heading west to Europe.

There is a cable that leaves South Africa (SAT£ I think) and heads
back up to Europe via the Atlantic, but I didn't think there was
enough capacity in the cable to carry shed loads of video.

As for satellite, I've no idea at all if that medium could carry the
traffic
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Peter

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On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:14:47 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

Mark Fraser wrote:


Are the BBC and ITV just using FIFA's SD and HD streams and then adding the
commentary and any DOGs at this end?

HBS, a German outfit have organised the TV coverage in SA. They provide
international
programme feeds to all the rights holders. There will be 'raw' SD and HD feeds,
with bookable commentary circuits, as a 'basic' service.

However in common with other large international broadcasters with 'an
interest' in the matches the Beeb and ITV have set up their own studios, and
production facilities in SA. The Beeb's is in Cape Town, ITV's in JoBurg. In
addition both broadcasters have a couple of their own cameras at each venue,
for customised presentation. However the circuits to and from the studios,
venues, and links back to London are still provided by HBS. The hub for all of
that activity the the IBC (International Broadcast Centre) in Joburg. Most of
the broadcasters, who are presenting from studios in SA, have those studios in
or close to the IBC.

There's some general information and diagrams he-

http://www.hbs.tv/orientation/


Thanks Mark, the diagrams indicate the video leaves South Africa via a
satellite link
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On 13 June, 21:22, Petert wrote:

http://www.hbs.tv/orientation/

Thanks Mark, the diagrams indicate the video leaves South Africa via a
satellite link

Isn't the HBS multilateral in the diagram the world feed? Aren't the
dirty and clean stadium feeds being picked up by broadcasters at
either the stadium compound, or the IBC. Presumably the stadium
feeds are available as EBU multilateralists, but the prime feeds into
UK broadcasters will be unilaterals over fibre via the Atlantic.

tedjrr wrote:
On 13 June, 21:22, Petert wrote:

http://www.hbs.tv/orientation/
Thanks Mark, the diagrams indicate the video leaves South Africa via a
satellite link

Isn't the HBS multilateral in the diagram the world feed? Aren't the
dirty and clean stadium feeds being picked up by broadcasters at
either the stadium compound, or the IBC. Presumably the stadium
feeds are available as EBU multilateralists, but the prime feeds into
UK broadcasters will be unilaterals over fibre via the Atlantic.

Just been talking to a colleague who spent most of May in SA, setting up
the Beeb's facilities. He says the outgoing feeds disappeared off into
HBS's inner sanctum on fibres, but beyond that he doesn't know.

He and I suspect there is a mixture of fibre and satellite links from
there to the UK, and Europe, with generous amounts of diversity and
resilience. I do notice that 'down the line' interviews to SA from the
UK have quite a long pause before there's a reaction, so that certainly
points to satellite for those.

On 14/06/2010 12:24, Mark Carver wrote:
tedjrr wrote:
On 13 June, 21:22, Petert wrote:

http://www.hbs.tv/orientation/
Thanks Mark, the diagrams indicate the video leaves South Africa via a
satellite link

Isn't the HBS multilateral in the diagram the world feed? Aren't the
dirty and clean stadium feeds being picked up by broadcasters at
either the stadium compound, or the IBC. Presumably the stadium
feeds are available as EBU multilateralists, but the prime feeds into
UK broadcasters will be unilaterals over fibre via the Atlantic.

Just been talking to a colleague who spent most of May in SA, setting up
the Beeb's facilities. He says the outgoing feeds disappeared off into
HBS's inner sanctum on fibres, but beyond that he doesn't know.

He and I suspect there is a mixture of fibre and satellite links from
there to the UK, and Europe, with generous amounts of diversity and
resilience. I do notice that 'down the line' interviews to SA from the
UK have quite a long pause before there's a reaction, so that certainly
points to satellite for those.

gone are the days of BBC Engineers doing it :-(