ITV "HD" World Cup Tonight

Stephen Wolstenholme writes:

Commercial television and live events are not compatible. A near live
solution is to delay the event by the duration of the ad break so the
event can be continued until there is a suitable time slot to squeeze
in the adverts. Another solution is provided by the BBC!

Or the event starts off 'correct time'[1] then during the ad breaks pause
the transmission of the incoming stream, as PVR users do when
interrupted, and at the end of the ad break continue transmission of the
event from where the stream was paused at the start of the break.

[1] Though even this will probably be at least seconds after those
actually present at the event see it.

On Sunday, June 13th, 2010 at 17:19:28 +0100h,
Stephen Wolstenholme declared:

Commercial television and live events are not compatible.

Really?

Strange how commercial television works without problems
for CFL, MLB, NBA, NCAA, NFL, NHL, etc etc.

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:23:25 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Sunday, June 13th, 2010 at 17:19:28 +0100h,
Stephen Wolstenholme declared:

Commercial television and live events are not compatible.

Really?

Strange how commercial television works without problems
for CFL, MLB, NBA, NCAA, NFL, NHL, etc etc.

Some of those seem to be live events adjusted to fit the timing
requirements of commercial television.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:23:25 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Sunday, June 13th, 2010 at 17:19:28 +0100h,
Stephen Wolstenholme declared:

Commercial television and live events are not compatible.
Really?

Strange how commercial television works without problems
for CFL, MLB, NBA, NCAA, NFL, NHL, etc etc.

Some of those seem to be live events adjusted to fit the timing
requirements of commercial television.

I attended an American football match once, apart from the refreshing family
atmosphere totally devoid of obscene chants, and the smell of urine, there
were significantly long pauses in the game, while the TV station covering the
match took commercial breaks.


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Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:


On Jun 12, 11:11*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
* *Phil Cook wrote:

I hear it looked pretty different at about four minutes in. Ads in
live sport again! Will ITV ever get it right?

Get it right for who? It's a business - not a free service. Which gets its
income from ads.

Traditionally they're not shown whilst the game is actually being
played...

Commercial television and live events are not compatible. A near live
solution is to delay the event by the duration of the ad break so the
event can be continued until there is a suitable time slot to squeeze
in the adverts. Another solution is provided by the BBC!

ITV's tradition seems to be to continue with the live coverage until
the /have/ to go to an ad break then of course sod's law decrees that
something interesting happens in the live event.

The most glaring example of this was the F1 race which was shaping up
for the most interesting finish in years where they kept with the live
feed delaying the ad break and realised too late that they would have
to go to an ad break and actually missed the finish and cut back for
the minor places.

A football game cut to ads because they had left the playout on
automatic when the game had gone into extra time, so the ads came on
at the scheduled end of transmission of a game without extra time
interupting the first period of extra time. I can't remember if a goal
was scored in the time it took them to realise what had happened.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

In article , Mark Carver
wrote:
Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:23:25 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Sunday, June 13th, 2010 at 17:19:28 +0100h, Stephen Wolstenholme
declared:

Commercial television and live events are not compatible.
Really?

Strange how commercial television works without problems for CFL, MLB,
NBA, NCAA, NFL, NHL, etc etc.

Some of those seem to be live events adjusted to fit the timing
requirements of commercial television.

I attended an American football match once, apart from the refreshing
family atmosphere totally devoid of obscene chants, and the smell of
urine, there were significantly long pauses in the game, while the TV
station covering the match took commercial breaks.

I understood that when the US networks started to cover "English football"
the referees were given a pager receiver which bleeped when it was time for
a commercial break. The whistle was then blown for "a foul".

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:35:28 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

Commercial television and live events are not compatible. A near live
solution is to delay the event by the duration of the ad break so the
event can be continued until there is a suitable time slot to squeeze
in the adverts. Another solution is provided by the BBC!

...who do themselves no favours by making themselves look like a commercial
broadcaster, with all that **** plastered over the end of programmes, and
between them.

But not three or four times a hour while the programmes are running.

Steve

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In article ,
Scott wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:11:35 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Phil Cook wrote:
I hear it looked pretty different at about four minutes in. Ads in
live sport again! Will ITV ever get it right?

Get it right for who? It's a business - not a free service. Which gets
its income from ads.

Can you imagine many football fans buying whatever was being
advertised when the football was interrupted?

No - but the wife forced to sit through it, yes.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
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Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:35:28 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

Commercial television and live events are not compatible. A near live
solution is to delay the event by the duration of the ad break so the
event can be continued until there is a suitable time slot to squeeze
in the adverts. Another solution is provided by the BBC!
...who do themselves no favours by making themselves look like a commercial
broadcaster, with all that **** plastered over the end of programmes, and
between them.

But not three or four times a hour while the programmes are running.

It's coming. During the winter Olympics, and last year's Wimbledon coverage,
they were inserting trailers in pauses during the action.

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On 12/06/2010 23:02, Phil Cook wrote:
Silk wrote:

It said HD, but it didn't look much different to SD to me.

I hear it looked pretty different at about four minutes in. Ads in
live sport again! Will ITV ever get it right?
It has been suggested in this mornings Times that the TX break was
related to betting syndicates and 8-1 odds on exactly this happening.
Hmmm....

Also recent ITV HD picture quality is terrible...

G