australian dvd recorder

Noggin wrote:
On 25/05/2010 18:02, J G Miller wrote:
On Tuesday, May 25th, 2010 at 17:46:55h +0100, Noggin declared:

Panasonic DMR-WX380 which has HD Freeview recording.

Where does it say that this model has a DVB-t2 tuner?

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_G...120/index.html


I suggest you check the panasonic.com.au site for the same model, and
particularly the instruction manual...



TV System Supported
DVB-T Australia
VHF: 6 to 12
UHF: 27 to 69


Now it may actually be that the firmware & tuner in the UK model is identical
to the Australian model. But it may not...

On Tue, 25 May 2010 17:16:06 +0100, "Ivan"
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"Adrian" wrote in message
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Noggin wrote:
Would a dvd recorder bought in Australia work in the UK?

Thanks

The recorder would work but you would have to record from an external
source. Any inbuilt tuner would be as good as useless.


Do the Australians use SCART, or will there be a component/composite output
which will have to be connected to a TV SCART adapter, if so what about auto
switching?

There is no SCART connector on the rear panel of the box. It has HDMI,
S-Video, Component Video and Video sockets.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

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Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Adrian
writes
Noggin wrote:
Would a dvd recorder bought in Australia work in the UK?
Thanks

The recorder would work but you would have to record from an
external source. Any inbuilt tuner would be as good as useless.

Not necessarily. For 'steam' analogue, many TV sets - even if not
totally multi-standard - and could be configured for use on PAL-I or
PAL-B. And would the Australian off-air digital (usually in 7MHz wide
channels) not be similarly re-configurable (at least, with some units)?

This from someone who thought recorded discs were region coded.

That was a question. What's the answer, then? If the recorder is
essentially a 'universal' unit (as may such things are these days),
would it be out of the question that the digital reception could be
suitably reconfigured, provided that all the necessary 'bits' and
software/firmware were already hidden away inside the works?
--
Ian

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On Tue, 25 May 2010 17:16:06 +0100, "Ivan"
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"Adrian" wrote in message
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Noggin wrote:
Would a dvd recorder bought in Australia work in the UK?

Thanks

The recorder would work but you would have to record from an external
source. Any inbuilt tuner would be as good as useless.


Do the Australians use SCART, or will there be a component/composite
output
which will have to be connected to a TV SCART adapter, if so what about
auto
switching?

There is no SCART connector on the rear panel of the box. It has HDMI,
S-Video, Component Video and Video sockets.



From the point of view of HD it's useless in the UK, which uses DVB-T2, even
'assuming' that everything else works, it's only going to be a basic SD
recorder, and for £285 I'd be pretty surprised if a UK specific equivalent
couldn't be found and don't forget the warranty aspect as well.
The new Phillips DVB-T2 PVR (which admittedly doesn't incorporate DVD) is
now on sale with a recommended price of £299, which usually means that it
should be possible to find it at a cheaper price by shopping around.
Also as the T2 chips fall in price the cost of HD Freeview receivers will
drop accordingly, If I was Noggin I would tend to hang on for a few months
and see what's available then.

On Tue, 25 May 2010 18:16:56 +0100, Chunky Old Cortina wrote:

Freeview HD in Australia is not based on DVB-t2

The digital TV service in Australia is called "Freeview" which has contained
both SD and HD services from the start of service on November 24th, 2008.

http://freeview.com.AU/

Therefore there is no Freeview HD in Australia per se,

http://freeview.com.AU/faq/faq.aspx?faqId=63

and thus I understood "Freeview HD" to refer to the Freeview HD service
in the UKofGB&NI.

http://www.freeview.co.UK/freeview/HD

Thus an Australian machine as it does not have a DVB-t2 tuner will not
receive /Freeview HD/.

But only for DVB-T muxes.

Correct. And since "Freeview devices must be capable of receiving
and decoding H.264/MPEG-4 AVC", it should also work for the terrestrial
DTV services in ROI.

Does the new DVB-T2 Freeview HD mux contain any non-HD content?

Only non-HD content in the sense of upscaled SD content.

It would be interesting to note how well an Australian Freeview
box would cope with the Freeview EPG and whether it suffers the
split NIT problem, since Australian Freeview only has about 15 stations.

On Tue, 25 May 2010 18:08:52 +0100, Noggin wrote:

On 25/05/2010 18:02, J G Miller wrote:
On Tuesday, May 25th, 2010 at 17:46:55h +0100, Noggin declared:

Panasonic DMR-WX380 which has HD Freeview recording.

Where does it say that this model has a DVB-t2 tuner?

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_G...120/index.html

Thanks for the link.

When I did a search for the originally quoted model number of DMR-WX380
I found nothing, since as is clear from that link the model number is
actually DMR-XW380.

So if the model sold in Australia is really the same, then it should
work for both Freeview and Freeview HD in the UKofGB&NI, since it does
have DVB-t2 tuner and MPEG-4 decoding.

On Tuesday, May 25th, 2010 18:40:42 +0100, Chunky Old Cortina wrote:

Now it may actually be that the firmware & tuner in the UK model is
identical to the Australian model. But it may not...

Okay, so here is the simple question.

When did DVB-t2 tuners become available and start to be included in
Panasonic set top boxes / recorders?

When did the particluar DMR-XW380 go on sale in Australia?

If the Australian version was being sold first, then the tuner
will not be DVB-t2 in the Australian version, and that model will
definitely be useless for Freeview HD.

Noggin wrote:
On 25/05/2010 17:00, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Zimmy
writes

"Noggin" wrote in message
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Would a dvd recorder bought in Australia work in the UK?

Just remember to put the disks in upside down ;-)

As the recorder comes from south of the equator, won't the discs also
rotate in the opposite direction?

Being serious, the real answer is that you have to look at the
differences in standards. It depends on whether the menu options allow
you to re-configure the DVD recorder adequately for the UK. A modern
unit may allow you to do this with no problems.

Apart from several differences in the off-air TV frequencies and system
standards, another difference is that the Australian DVD (if you really
mean DVD and not hard disk) is Region 4, and we are Region 2. This means
that a DVD recorded on the recorder won't play on a UK player (or even
on computer, unless you use the 'right' multimedia player) unless the
region code can be changed to match. However, many DVD recorders/players
allow you to do this (mine does) - and even to set the code to 0 (works
world-wide).

Before going into further into things, which recorder are you likely to
buy (or have bought), and can a detailed specification or user manual be
downloaded?

It's the Panasonic DMR-WX380 which has HD Freeview recording A Pal of
mine in Oz is coming to the UK soon and wants to know if he can use it
here. If he can I think I'll ask him to get me one too! The price
there is $499(about £285), the price here will be £549, Bit of a
difference!

HD terrestrial broadcasts in Australia use DVB=T/MPEG4 we use DVB-T2, as
I said before, it's tuner will be useless here.

--
Adrian

Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Adrian
writes
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Adrian
writes
Noggin wrote:
Would a dvd recorder bought in Australia work in the UK?
Thanks

The recorder would work but you would have to record from an
external source. Any inbuilt tuner would be as good as useless.

Not necessarily. For 'steam' analogue, many TV sets - even if not
totally multi-standard - and could be configured for use on PAL-I or
PAL-B. And would the Australian off-air digital (usually in 7MHz wide
channels) not be similarly re-configurable (at least, with some units)?

This from someone who thought recorded discs were region coded.

That was a question. What's the answer, then? If the recorder is
essentially a 'universal' unit (as may such things are these days),
would it be out of the question that the digital reception could be
suitably reconfigured, provided that all the necessary 'bits' and
software/firmware were already hidden away inside the works?

No, because the necessary components will not be fitted,
--
Adrian

Noggin wrote:
On 25/05/2010 18:02, J G Miller wrote:
On Tuesday, May 25th, 2010 at 17:46:55h +0100, Noggin declared:

Panasonic DMR-WX380 which has HD Freeview recording.

Where does it say that this model has a DVB-t2 tuner?

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_G...120/index.html


The UK version is not the same as the Australian one.
--
Adrian