Digital radio switchover gets poor reception

On 6/2/10 8:17 PM, Woody wrote:
Band 2 has never been flogged off. Now Band 3 has been used for
PMR but with some serious limitations as most of our near
neighbours on the continent and in the RoI still use Band 3 for
TV.

These are being switched off in rapid succession now. But all channels
have been divided among most countries for use as DAB+/DMB blocks.
In the western part of the Netherlands tests have started on 5B.

Band 1 has never been used for TV in the UK.

Yes, by the BBC.

gr, hwh

On Wednesday, June 2nd, 2010 at 19:17:07h +0100, Woody wrote:

Band 1 has never been used for TV in the UK.

Shome mishtake shurely?

VHF Band I 405 line TV transmitters

BBC London and South East from Crystal Palace ch 1V
BBC North from Holme Moss ch 2V
BBC South from Rowridge ch 3V
BBC Midlands from Sutton Coldfield ch 4V

etc etc

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article [email protected],
Woody wrote:
Band 1 has never been used for TV in the UK.

Eh?

Seconded!
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Ian

On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 20:54:47 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article [email protected],
Woody wrote:
Band 1 has never been used for TV in the UK.

Eh?

Seconded!

Thirded! Lists and maps he
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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article [email protected],
Woody wrote:
Band 1 has never been used for TV in the UK.

Eh?

--
Sorry, senior moment. Should have read '...never been used for
PMR in the UK.'



--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

In article , charles
scribeth thus
In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
: Save money? Surely the main reason for the changeover is to
enable the
: government to sell off bandwidth and thereby gather even more
money.

Indeed, and do remember for whom Mr Cameron worked before becoming an
MP...

Yeabut theres no plan as such to flog off VHF Band 2 spectrum is
there?...

What commercial use would it have - apart from broadcast?

when Band I & Band III were 'flogged off' it was for PMR use. Nowadays
most people use mobile phones, so I don't see any demand in that quarter.


Beg to differ with my 'learned friend but as far as I remember neither
Band 1 or 3 were sold off at all unlike cellular licences..

FWIW Band 1 has hardly any PMR thereon due to the absurdly long aerials
required, the impossibility of using portables and the lack of type
approved equipment/s..

Band 3 is of course used by some PMR, bus and Trains and data systems
tho some of these especially the trains will migrate over to GSM/R in
time..

And ofd course DAB.. Not a lot of demand for licences there it seems..

But none of it was sold off as such...
--
Tony Sayer

In article [email protected], Woody
scribeth thus
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article [email protected],
Woody wrote:
Band 1 has never been used for TV in the UK.

Eh?

--
Sorry, senior moment. Should have read '...never been used for
PMR in the UK.'




Has .. but very limited use but darn sarff, and IIRC now fallen out of
favour...
--
Tony Sayer

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , charles
scribeth thus
In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:


Beg to differ with my 'learned friend but as far as I remember neither
Band 1 or 3 were sold off at all unlike cellular licences..

FWIW Band 1 has hardly any PMR thereon due to the absurdly long aerials
required, the impossibility of using portables and the lack of type
approved equipment/s..

Band 3 is of course used by some PMR, bus and Trains and data systems
tho some of these especially the trains will migrate over to GSM/R in
time..

And ofd course DAB.. Not a lot of demand for licences there it seems..

But none of it was sold off as such...
--
Tony Sayer



We used 47 MHz at one time, the aerials were not particularly "absurd",
range was great most of the time though we used to get interference from
Russian fishing boats sometimes. Pye Westminsters were used.

Other low VHF frequencies have been used for PMR at times.

On Jun 2, 10:57*pm, tony sayer wrote:
In article [email protected], Woody
scribeth thus

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article [email protected],
* Woody wrote:
Band 1 has never been used for TV in the UK.

Eh?

--
Sorry, senior moment. Should have read '...never been used for
PMR in the UK.'

Has .. but very limited use but darn sarff, and IIRC now fallen out of
favour...
--
Tony Sayer

Wouldn't all that PMR stuff just above the old ch B5 be within Band
I?

Bill

" wrote in
message
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On Jun 2, 10:57 pm, tony sayer wrote:
In article [email protected], Woody
scribeth thus

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article [email protected],
Woody wrote:
Band 1 has never been used for TV in the UK.

Eh?

--
Sorry, senior moment. Should have read '...never been used for
PMR in the UK.'

Has .. but very limited use but darn sarff, and IIRC now fallen
out of
favour...
--
Tony Sayer

Wouldn't all that PMR stuff just above the old ch B5 be within
Band
I?

Bill


AIRI Band 1 was something like 41-68MHz, certainly 'E' band PMR
was and still is (technically) 68-88MHz although 87.5-88 was
cleared a few years ago to permit short term VHF broadcast
stations (like for the Great Yorkshire Show, etc.)

Although some people may have used frequencies in what we would
class as Band 1 it was never available for PMR use in the UK. The
US used to use frequencies in the 35-40MHz region for police
radio after the war which continued until the 70's, but most of
that band un the UK was allocated for MoD use.


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Woody

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