Freesat 119 ITV1 HD

On 07/04/2010 19:33, Peter Duncanson wrote:

Red button gone now.
http://www.freesat.co.uk/index.php?p...chedule#friday
Regards
David

No it hasn't!

I've just pressed it and switched to HD while tuned to ITV1 London (on
Freesat).

Indeed, it was always there on Ch 103 for Channel Islands post codes,
and still is, but curiously Ch 119 is missing on CI channel scans.

Deliberate or cock-up I wonder ?

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On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:58:12 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

On 07/04/2010 19:33, Peter Duncanson wrote:

Red button gone now.
http://www.freesat.co.uk/index.php?p...chedule#friday
Regards
David

No it hasn't!

I've just pressed it and switched to HD while tuned to ITV1 London (on
Freesat).

Indeed, it was always there on Ch 103 for Channel Islands post codes,
and still is, but curiously Ch 119 is missing on CI channel scans.

Deliberate or cock-up I wonder ?

Deliberate I suspect. It is not there on Northern Ireland postcode
scans. I'd assume that the same goes for Scotland

The local "Channel 3" companies, which are independent of ITV Plc, would
not want their local viewers to watch ITV1 HD instead of the local
stations and therefore not see adverts on the local stations. Loss of
viewing figures - loss of revenue - going out of business.

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On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:00:18 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:45:04 +0100, "The dog from that film you saw"
wrote:



"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:37:08 +0100, "Gary"


It depends what you mean by HD. Everything is being transmitted and
received in HD (1080i). It's just that much of the source material will
upscaled from SD. Blurryvision (576i) convert Blurryvision (1080i).
Spot the difference, if you can!






the good thing is, the SD source they are using is their own super high
quality SD source that we never get to see - so there's no reason why even
the upscaled stuff will not look lots better than when we allow our
televisions to upscale the crappy ITV feed we get.

Good point.

Something I recorded the other day came in at under 1 Gig for an hour

Peter Duncanson wrote:

I've just pressed it and switched to HD while tuned to ITV1 London (on
Freesat).
Indeed, it was always there on Ch 103 for Channel Islands post codes,
and still is, but curiously Ch 119 is missing on CI channel scans.

Deliberate or cock-up I wonder ?

Deliberate I suspect. It is not there on Northern Ireland postcode
scans. I'd assume that the same goes for Scotland

Read my post again. ITV HD *is* linked by red button from Channel ITV, *but*
the Ch 119 version is not available.

AIUI the red button link is not, nor ever has been, available on UTV or STV ?

The local "Channel 3" companies, which are independent of ITV Plc, would
not want their local viewers to watch ITV1 HD instead of the local
stations and therefore not see adverts on the local stations. Loss of
viewing figures - loss of revenue - going out of business.

Yes, I know, but CTV does have a 'stake' in ITV Ltd, through the national ad
sales set up.


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On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:14:30 +0100, Mark Carver
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AIUI the red button link is not, nor ever has been, available on UTV or STV ?

Certainly hasn't on STV. If we want ITV HD we select Freesat 977 where
the red button link is available.
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:14:30 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

Peter Duncanson wrote:

I've just pressed it and switched to HD while tuned to ITV1 London (on
Freesat).
Indeed, it was always there on Ch 103 for Channel Islands post codes,
and still is, but curiously Ch 119 is missing on CI channel scans.

Deliberate or cock-up I wonder ?

Deliberate I suspect. It is not there on Northern Ireland postcode
scans. I'd assume that the same goes for Scotland

Read my post again. ITV HD *is* linked by red button from Channel ITV, *but*
the Ch 119 version is not available.

AIUI the red button link is not, nor ever has been, available on UTV or STV ?

Correct for UTV and presumably STV. ITV1 London with Red Button access
to ITV1 HD is in the EPG for the UTV region at Ch977.

The local "Channel 3" companies, which are independent of ITV Plc, would
not want their local viewers to watch ITV1 HD instead of the local
stations and therefore not see adverts on the local stations. Loss of
viewing figures - loss of revenue - going out of business.

Yes, I know, but CTV does have a 'stake' in ITV Ltd, through the national ad
sales set up.

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Peter Duncanson wrote:

I've just pressed it and switched to HD while tuned to ITV1 London (on
Freesat).
Indeed, it was always there on Ch 103 for Channel Islands post codes,
and still is, but curiously Ch 119 is missing on CI channel scans.

Deliberate or cock-up I wonder ?

Deliberate I suspect. It is not there on Northern Ireland postcode
scans. I'd assume that the same goes for Scotland

Read my post again. ITV HD *is* linked by red button from Channel ITV,
*but* the Ch 119 version is not available.

AIUI the red button link is not, nor ever has been, available on UTV or
STV ?

The local "Channel 3" companies, which are independent of ITV Plc, would
not want their local viewers to watch ITV1 HD instead of the local
stations and therefore not see adverts on the local stations. Loss of
viewing figures - loss of revenue - going out of business.

Yes, I know, but CTV does have a 'stake' in ITV Ltd, through the national
ad sales set up.



No 119 on Meridian, either. So why does Freesat info on Ch999 say that
ITV1 HD on Channel 119 is available to viewers in England, Wales, and those
Scottish viewers in the Border TV region? Funny thing is that when I first
tuned in the Bush HD, it selected London region for my (North Sussex)
postcode. I changed it a couple of months ago to a Brighton south coast
postcode in order to get south local news more easily.

Unfortunately, doing that "First time install" deleted all the non-Freesat
channels as well, so I had to manually retune those.

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Jeff Layman wrote:

No 119 on Meridian, either.

Really ? I've got it here in Meridian land, North Hampshire RG22, and so have
my parents in RG26. We both had to run a re-scan to get though. My box Humax
HDR, parents have the Bush/Alba/Grundig/Vestel thing.

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Jeff Layman wrote:

No 119 on Meridian, either.

Really ? I've got it here in Meridian land, North Hampshire RG22, and so
have my parents in RG26. We both had to run a re-scan to get though. My
box Humax HDR, parents have the Bush/Alba/Grundig/Vestel thing.

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Interesting. I just found http://www.itv.com/itv1hd/questionsaboutitv1hd/
which says
"Which regions will be represented on ITV1 HD?
We will launch with the London region followed by a roll out of regions in
stages - London, North, Central, South East by June 2010. It's worth
checking with each digital HD TV provider before signing up for their
service that they can provide digital TV services to your area.". Does your
experience mean they launched in the South East region early?

Regarding the Bush HD receiver, the instructions say "The TV Listings menu
shows you all of your available channels. This list is updated
automatically each time you open the menu, so there is no need to retune
your digital box when new channels become available."

Hell. If you have got 119 on Meridian rather than London, that means a new
"First time install" if the Bush isn't retuning properly, and much fuffing
around with manual retuning of the non-Freesat channels. :-(

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Jeff Layman wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Jeff Layman wrote:

No 119 on Meridian, either.

Really ? I've got it here in Meridian land, North Hampshire RG22, and
so have my parents in RG26.

Interesting. I just found
http://www.itv.com/itv1hd/questionsaboutitv1hd/ which says
"Which regions will be represented on ITV1 HD?
We will launch with the London region followed by a roll out of regions
in stages - London, North, Central, South East by June 2010. It's worth
checking with each digital HD TV provider before signing up for their
service that they can provide digital TV services to your area.". Does
your experience mean they launched in the South East region early?

I think currently there is just a single stream, London that is (or should be)
mapped to all English and Welsh post codes. I'm not sure where ITV are going
to find the extra bandwidth to launch more HD streams on satellite. They might
well be referring to DTT and Cable and possibly FTV Sky only.

Regarding the Bush HD receiver, the instructions say "The TV Listings
menu shows you all of your available channels. This list is updated
automatically each time you open the menu, so there is no need to retune
your digital box when new channels become available."

Ignore that. On my parents Bush I had to run a 'first time' scan in order to
get Ch 119 to appear.

Hell. If you have got 119 on Meridian rather than London, that means a
new "First time install" if the Bush isn't retuning properly, and much
fuffing around with manual retuning of the non-Freesat channels. :-(

I went right back to the start with the Bush, and re-entered thee postcode.
Meridian South is the channel that appears on 103, and BBC 1 South on 101.

Try stuffing in Basingstoke Council's postcode RG21 4AH, if your Sussex one
doesn't work.


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