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Norman Wells wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Norman Wells wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
David Rance wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I can understand cities within the area of shire counties doing
their own thing but Berkshire doesn't have any!
(In any case, as far as I'm concerned, Slough is still in
Buckinghamshire - and I'm sure that the majority of Berkshire
residents would have similar feelings!)

Many years ago Reading was a County Borough. Then in the 1970's
reorganisation it lost that status, but now it appears to have
regained what it lost - or has it? It is canvassing for city
status but it's doubtful if it will get it.

needs a cathedral first. Or possibly these days a mosque.

Actually that's an urban legend. You don't have to have a cathedral
to be a city.

David

You most certainly used to, when I were a lad.

I don't think Brighton's got one.

It wasn't UK gay capital either, when I were a lad ;-)]

Then you must be very, very old. It certainly had a reputation in that
regard even in 1968, when I lived there.

hardly 'very, very old', I would have thought. I was a teenager in the
1950s and I'm not yet 70. 'old' maybe

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Norman Wells wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Norman Wells wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
David Rance wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I can understand cities within the area of shire counties doing
their own thing but Berkshire doesn't have any!
(In any case, as far as I'm concerned, Slough is still in
Buckinghamshire - and I'm sure that the majority of Berkshire
residents would have similar feelings!)

Many years ago Reading was a County Borough. Then in the 1970's
reorganisation it lost that status, but now it appears to have
regained what it lost - or has it? It is canvassing for city
status but it's doubtful if it will get it.

needs a cathedral first. Or possibly these days a mosque.

Actually that's an urban legend. You don't have to have a cathedral
to be a city.

David

You most certainly used to, when I were a lad.

I don't think Brighton's got one.

It wasn't UK gay capital either, when I were a lad ;-)]

Then you must be very, very old. It certainly had a reputation in that
regard even in 1968, when I lived there.

I think I probably am very very old.
By your standards. born 1950.

BEFORE homosexuality was legal..

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:36:10 +0000, Norman Wells wrote:

I don't think Brighton's got one.

It wasn't UK gay capital either, when I were a lad ;-)]

Then you must be very, very old. It certainly had a reputation in that
regard even in 1968, when I lived there.

I don't remember that...and I lived there from 1950 (when I was born)
until 1978.

Of course, you probably moved in the right circles to know..! .-)



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Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:36:10 +0000, Norman Wells wrote:

I don't think Brighton's got one.
It wasn't UK gay capital either, when I were a lad ;-)]
Then you must be very, very old. It certainly had a reputation in that
regard even in 1968, when I lived there.

I don't remember that...and I lived there from 1950 (when I was born)
until 1978.

Of course, you probably moved in the right circles to know..! .-)



certainly by the late 60's it had a certain reputation in certain circles.

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:35:57 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

You most certainly used to, when I were a lad.

You must be extremely old then, at least 123.

Birmingham became a city in 1889 before it had a cathedral in 1905.

Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:36:10 +0000, Norman Wells wrote:

I don't think Brighton's got one.

It wasn't UK gay capital either, when I were a lad ;-)]

Then you must be very, very old. It certainly had a reputation in
that regard even in 1968, when I lived there.

I don't remember that...and I lived there from 1950 (when I was born)
until 1978.

Of course, you probably moved in the right circles to know..! .-)

No, no! I'm much straighter than a circle. But I was a student in Brighton
then, and it was customary to know such things. A mate of mine had heard
that The Spotted Dog was a favourite gay haunt, and we decided to go there
one night just out of bravado to see something outrageous. We didn't of
course. Perhaps they'd all become gays by then, and therefore wholly
respectable.

Strange how times change.

On 19/03/2010 20:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

So a village bobby, ended up on the same pay scale, and so they ditched
them in favour of town based stations with cars and radio. Result: they
don't know who the local lads who would benefit from a sharp talking to
ate, until they do something drastic and end up in the nick. Its sad.


Often there would be a nice cottage that had been provided for the
village bobby, sometimes given a local worthy many years ago. This will
have now been sold off and either any bobby based in the village will
not be able to afford a house there because all been bought by commuters
and retired people or he will be given a poor quality modern house on an
estate nearby.

MB wrote:
On 19/03/2010 20:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

So a village bobby, ended up on the same pay scale, and so they ditched
them in favour of town based stations with cars and radio. Result: they
don't know who the local lads who would benefit from a sharp talking to
ate, until they do something drastic and end up in the nick. Its sad.


Often there would be a nice cottage that had been provided for the
village bobby, sometimes given a local worthy many years ago. This will
have now been sold off and either any bobby based in the village will
not be able to afford a house there because all been bought by commuters
and retired people or he will be given a poor quality modern house on an
estate nearby.

tied cottages. Police authority buys one, and rents it affordably.

Probably cheaper than the cost of the petrol to put in the patrol car,
overall.

Its all bean counter stuff. BUT the bean counters always miss the point.

They never count what's off balance sheet.

The ploy adopted in 'Jubilee' whereby 'the crime rate droped to zero
when all laws were repealed' is only decades away..

the boys in blue are no longer respnsible to the communities they used
to serve: they are responsible to central government paymasters, and
their requirement is to produce improved crime statistics and conviction
rates to prove they are doing something. When its pointless to report a
crime, reported crime rates go down. When the police wint act at all
without a very good chance of securing a conviction, there is even less
chance of a reported crime even entering the system on record. When the
easiest person to convict is the citizen who bashes an intruder over the
head with a spade guess who gets convicted?

Why? BECAUSE the targets that are set, are not the targets that the
citizens want. They are the targets that central government wants, for
propaganda purposes.

How long would a police force with zero crime reported and zero
conviction rates last, funding wise?

And yet, to me, that would be the sign of a 100% efficient police force
in a fundamentally crime free community.

In asia, you pay the doctor UNTIL you get ill. ;-)

On 19/03/2010 20:52, Norman Wells wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
David Rance wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I can understand cities within the area of shire counties doing
their own thing but Berkshire doesn't have any!
(In any case, as far as I'm concerned, Slough is still in
Buckinghamshire - and I'm sure that the majority of Berkshire
residents would have similar feelings!)

Many years ago Reading was a County Borough. Then in the 1970's
reorganisation it lost that status, but now it appears to have
regained what it lost - or has it? It is canvassing for city status
but it's doubtful if it will get it.

needs a cathedral first. Or possibly these days a mosque.

Actually that's an urban legend. You don't have to have a cathedral
to be a city.

David

You most certainly used to, when I were a lad.

I don't think Brighton's got one.

Could that be because it's not a city?
This sums up what is and isn't a city in the UK:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City#Un...om_and_Ireland
As you'll see, it's an ever-changing set of circumstances!

George

On 20/03/2010 11:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
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In asia, you pay the doctor UNTIL you get ill. ;-)

Works like that with dentists in the UK (Denplan etc.) ;-)

George