Blu-Ray player

"killjoy" wrote in message
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As it's impossible to press Stop part-way through a Blu-Ray disc and
resume another day, I prefer renting DVDs.

That is disc dependent and down to lazy authoring. Some discs will, after
removal and power down, ask you if you want to start again or Resume when
reinserted. One of my music concert discs allows me to choose my favourite
tracks, resequence them and have that choice offered to me whenever that
disc is reinserted. Almost anything is possible.

Many BD discs Resume in exactly the same mannner as DVDs, rather too many
don't but that is the choice of the film distributor.
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Malcolm

In message , Ian
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In message , John
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Can anyone recommend me a good value Blu-Ray player that's under £100
in price?

The main things I was looking for was fast load times, bd live 2.0,
wide range of supported formats (avi mp4, mkv etc) and giving great
quality play back for blu-rays.


Saw this recently, though I can't vouch for it.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168916

I believe it's Ebuyer's own brand.

Is that the Forden & Hoesch, or something? If so I believe the same
player is available in HMV under the name Limit.

It's very highly regarded on AV Forums. It also has the added bonus of
being region-free for both DVD and BD, via a remote code.

Had I not recently bought a Curtis DVD1100UK from Tesco for £90 (also
region-free for DVD & BD) no BD Live though, which is no great loss IMO.
Still got my PS3 for that should any amazing BD Live content appear at
any time.
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On 03/01/2010 20:59, Grumps wrote:
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Can anyone recommend me a good value Blu-Ray player that's under £100
in price?

The main things I was looking for was fast load times, bd live 2.0,
wide range of supported formats (avi mp4, mkv etc) and giving great
quality play back for blu-rays.

SNIP
You can get a Sony blu-ray player pretty cheaply these days. I have a Sony
and it does a wonderful job of upscaling DVDs. As it's impossible to press
Stop part-way through a Blu-Ray disc and resume another day,

Rubbish, with my LG unit you can take the disk out, play a CD, put it back
and remembers where you left off and resumes there. It also plays DVD's
stuffed with MP3's etc.

Sony also make you sit through miles of pre-crap no matter how fast it
loads.

To put it impolitely Sony have got their heads up their own a***s with DRM
and their BD players are probably best given a miss as a result.

I prefer renting DVDs. Blu-Ray doesn't add much, anyway, as my enjoyment
of a film is more down to the quality of the script, direction, acting and
so on.

I should visit an optician.

In message , R. Mark Clayton
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"killjoy" wrote in message
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On 03/01/2010 20:59, Grumps wrote:
"R. Mark wrote in message
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wrote in message
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Can anyone recommend me a good value Blu-Ray player that's under £100
in price?

The main things I was looking for was fast load times, bd live 2.0,
wide range of supported formats (avi mp4, mkv etc) and giving great
quality play back for blu-rays.

SNIP
You can get a Sony blu-ray player pretty cheaply these days. I have a Sony
and it does a wonderful job of upscaling DVDs. As it's impossible to press
Stop part-way through a Blu-Ray disc and resume another day,

Rubbish, with my LG unit you can take the disk out, play a CD, put it back
and remembers where you left off and resumes there. It also plays DVD's
stuffed with MP3's etc.

I've no experience with LG players, but most players will only resume BD
playback if it's a non-java disc. If it comes up with some sort of
"loading" graphic that usually means it's non-java and it won't resume,
if it's an "ordinary" disc and goes straight to the movie/menu
(adverts/trailers aside) then it should resume.

Thankfully, a lot of (although by no means all) discs now come with the
facility to bookmark where you got to.
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Sean Black

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In message , R. Mark Clayton
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Rubbish, with my LG unit you can take the disk out, play a CD, put it
back and remembers where you left off and resumes there. It also plays
DVD's stuffed with MP3's etc.

I've no experience with LG players, but most players will only resume BD
playback if it's a non-java disc. If it comes up with some sort of
"loading" graphic that usually means it's non-java and it won't resume,
if it's an "ordinary" disc and goes straight to the movie/menu
(adverts/trailers aside) then it should resume.

This thread has given me a new reason to go on avoiding 'Blu Ray'! Must
admit I hadn't realised that the makers were as arrogant as the above
indicates.

So far as I am concerned, it is a matter of what the *customer* wants that
should matter. Should not be in the gift of the disc makers to deny users
the ability to be able to resume playing at the same point that it stopped.

Since one of my main reasons for using DVD is to allow be to 'break up'
viewing into chunks as and when it suits me, if any disc doesn't permit
this then it would be 'not fit for purpose' so far as I am concerned. I
doubt I am unique in this.

Thankfully, a lot of (although by no means all) discs now come with the
facility to bookmark where you got to.

How generous of them. :-)

Oh well, I guess I should have expected this given some of the ways the
companies already mistreat DVD customers. Chalk up another reason why I
think we need have no sympathy for the big companies who want us to pay
their wages regardless of how they treat us...

Slainte,

Jim

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Malcolm Knight wrote:

That is disc dependent and down to lazy authoring. Some discs will,
after removal and power down, ask you if you want to start again or
Resume when reinserted. One of my music concert discs allows me to
choose my favourite tracks, resequence them and have that choice offered
to me whenever that disc is reinserted. Almost anything is possible.

Many BD discs Resume in exactly the same mannner as DVDs, rather too
many don't but that is the choice of the film distributor.

Fascinating.

Where exactly on the disc does it put the information on where you are
up to? (clue: The disc is read only).

Andy

On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:28:29 +0000, Andy Champ
wrote:

Malcolm Knight wrote:

That is disc dependent and down to lazy authoring. Some discs will,
after removal and power down, ask you if you want to start again or
Resume when reinserted. One of my music concert discs allows me to
choose my favourite tracks, resequence them and have that choice offered
to me whenever that disc is reinserted. Almost anything is possible.

Many BD discs Resume in exactly the same mannner as DVDs, rather too
many don't but that is the choice of the film distributor.

Fascinating.

Where exactly on the disc does it put the information on where you are
up to? (clue: The disc is read only).

Good question.

I have no idea of the formats and protocols but it would in principle be
possible for a disc to have a "Never resume" marker that the player
would obey.

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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Peter Duncanson wrote:

On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:28:29 +0000, Andy Champ
wrote:

Malcolm Knight wrote:

That is disc dependent and down to lazy authoring. Some discs will,
after removal and power down, ask you if you want to start again or
Resume when reinserted. One of my music concert discs allows me to
choose my favourite tracks, resequence them and have that choice offered
to me whenever that disc is reinserted. Almost anything is possible.

Many BD discs Resume in exactly the same mannner as DVDs, rather too
many don't but that is the choice of the film distributor.

Fascinating.

Where exactly on the disc does it put the information on where you are
up to? (clue: The disc is read only).

Good question.

I have no idea of the formats and protocols but it would in principle be
possible for a disc to have a "Never resume" marker that the player
would obey.

Nearly...

http://www.sony.com.au/subtype/usefulinfo/asset/306437, number 6 I think.


B

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On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:28:29 +0000, Andy Champ
wrote:

Malcolm Knight wrote:

That is disc dependent and down to lazy authoring. Some discs will,
after removal and power down, ask you if you want to start again or
Resume when reinserted. One of my music concert discs allows me to
choose my favourite tracks, resequence them and have that choice offered
to me whenever that disc is reinserted. Almost anything is possible.

Many BD discs Resume in exactly the same mannner as DVDs, rather too
many don't but that is the choice of the film distributor.

Fascinating.

Where exactly on the disc does it put the information on where you are
up to? (clue: The disc is read only).

Presumably the information is stored in the player. Two items of data
would do the trick: Disc Identifier and the associated Position Pointer.

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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

On 04/01/2010 15:03, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
wrote in message
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On 03/01/2010 20:59, Grumps wrote:
"R. Mark wrote in message
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wrote in message
...
Can anyone recommend me a good value Blu-Ray player that's under £100
in price?

The main things I was looking for was fast load times, bd live 2.0,
wide range of supported formats (avi mp4, mkv etc) and giving great
quality play back for blu-rays.

SNIP
You can get a Sony blu-ray player pretty cheaply these days. I have a Sony
and it does a wonderful job of upscaling DVDs. As it's impossible to press
Stop part-way through a Blu-Ray disc and resume another day,

Rubbish, with my LG unit you can take the disk out, play a CD, put it back
and remembers where you left off and resumes there. It also plays DVD's
stuffed with MP3's etc.

Sony also make you sit through miles of pre-crap no matter how fast it
loads.

To put it impolitely Sony have got their heads up their own a***s with DRM
and their BD players are probably best given a miss as a result.

I prefer renting DVDs. Blu-Ray doesn't add much, anyway, as my enjoyment
of a film is more down to the quality of the script, direction, acting and
so on.

I should visit an optician.



How would an optician improve the quality of a film? I watched Let The
Right One In on a fuzzy download and it was superb. My eyesight is fine,
thanks, but better picture quality doesn't equate to a better movie. Nor
does 3D, by the way.

You're probably right about Sony players and "pre-crap". I put the disc
in well before I want to watch it - with TV and sound system turned off.
That's when I come back ten minutes later and it's still waiting for me
to choose a language. :-)

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