I'm sick of freeview not coping with interference

In article ,
Joseph wrote:
The interference only started this week so I'm hoping its only
temporary. Perhaps someone is using some cheapo foreign power tools in
the evening doing some DIY work or something.

B2003

What do you mean by cheapo foreign power tools? We don't make anything
anymore in the UK so there isn't any option. In fact some of the
"cheapo" foreign stuff from China, for example, is superb. Not like it
used to be!

;-)

Any UK made power tool is far more likely to be a source of interference
since it will have been made when standards weren't so rigorous.

--
*On the seventh day He brewed beer *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

wrote:

For the last few days we've had some bad electrical interference near
where I live. We haven't tracked it down yet but the upshot is its pretty
much killing some of the freeview channels making them either like a
slideshow or no picture at all. So we switch to analogue and it works
fine. Sure theres a lot of noise in the picture but its still perfectly
watchable.

If freeview can't cope with interference what bloody use is it other than
offering a load of extra channels hardly anyone watches?

B2003

I had a problem a few months ago at certain times in the evening.
I have a new 18 element rooftop aerial and new downleads. None of my
neighbours were affected.

The interference coincided with my next door neighbour (who has Sky) working
in his garage. His garage is in line with my aerial

I thought noisy power tools, but no, it turned out to be a flickering
fluorescent tube in his garage. He removed the offending tube and my
problem was cured. I wonder how many dodgy fluorescent tubes there could be
in a city office block!

--
John Aldred

"Rod Keith" wrote in message
...

Have your tried a filtered main socket or a filtered mains extension
socket?
It could be mains borne interference. Also try wrapping the mains lead
around a ferrite ring or core.
This man isn't here to be given a solution, he's here for a good ****ing
whine. I get 'em like this. They come up to me, climb up the ladder into the
lift motor room where I'm installing a new head end, and start to moan about
their reception. I tell them that we are spending thousands on a new system
and they CARRY ON WHINING! I had one the other week where I went into the
flat and met a barrage of moaning. I wordlessless reached behind the telly
and fitted a new flylead, producing perfect reception. The old scrote just
carried on, moan moan ****ing moan. I did a full re-tune, then went through
the channels. Everything was perfect. Still he was moaning away. I pointed
out that the problem was fixed. He glanced at the screen and then carried on
moaning! I said "Look, your reception is perfect now!" He paused in his
moaning to say, "So you say!" Then he commenced moaning again. Resisting the
urge to lift up his 1985 Sony and smash it over his stupid head I departed.

Bill

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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:42:18 +0000 (GMT)
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
If it continues for much longer I intend to. Anyway , this is getting
away from the point. If freeview worked properly this wouldn't be an
issue anyway.

I suggest you invent a transmission system which is totally immune from
interference. Since you obviously know so much.

Oh put a sock in it Plowman. I want a transmission system which doesn't
die
completely under interference conditions that the old analogue system
coped
perfectly well with.

BTW I can't remember when last I had any man made interference on either
analogue or digital. Reception problems on analogue due to sun spots or
whatever, yes, on analogue. FreeView is fine.

Oh well , if it doesn't happen to you then obviously it NEVER happens. I
guess those of us who suffer from it are just delusional.

No you suffer from analogue ears and eyes. If we had digital ears, everyone
would say everything twice or three times over with overlaps:

"We would we talk would something talk something like something this like
this."

Then brief dropouts wouldn't be such a problem.

Maybe Cubists has digital eyes...

--
Max Demian

"Max Demian" wrote in message ...
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:42:18 +0000 (GMT)
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
If it continues for much longer I intend to. Anyway , this is getting
away from the point. If freeview worked properly this wouldn't be an
issue anyway.

I suggest you invent a transmission system which is totally immune from
interference. Since you obviously know so much.

Oh put a sock in it Plowman. I want a transmission system which doesn't die
completely under interference conditions that the old analogue system coped
perfectly well with.

BTW I can't remember when last I had any man made interference on either
analogue or digital. Reception problems on analogue due to sun spots or
whatever, yes, on analogue. FreeView is fine.

Oh well , if it doesn't happen to you then obviously it NEVER happens. I
guess those of us who suffer from it are just delusional.

No you suffer from analogue ears and eyes. If we had digital ears, everyone would say everything twice or three times over with
overlaps:

"We would we talk would something talk something like something this like this."

Then brief dropouts wouldn't be such a problem.

Maybe Cubists has digital eyes...

What the FEC you are talking about?

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:26:12 +0000 (GMT)
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
Oh put a sock in it Plowman. I want a transmission system which doesn't
die completely under interference conditions that the old analogue
system coped perfectly well with.

How many times must you be told that FreeView is running at well under the
ideal power - and will do until analogue is switched off?

So fecking what?? I'm watching it NOW and have problems with it NOW.
I don't care that it'll be better in 2012. Freeview is supposed to be an
analogue replacement NOW. Clearly it is not!

Perhaps you'd explain your noisy analogue pictures - as asked? Which you
apparently consider ok?

You want a description? Ok - snow with some herringbone patterns. The
suddenly it'll vanish. In fact last night it didn't even appear.
Does that help? No , didn't think so. Now back under your bridge.

B2003

wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:26:12 +0000 (GMT)
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

How many times must you be told that FreeView is running at well under the
ideal power - and will do until analogue is switched off?

So fecking what?? I'm watching it NOW and have problems with it NOW.
I don't care that it'll be better in 2012. Freeview is supposed to be an
analogue replacement NOW.

No !!!! Wrong I'm afraid.

It's still a supplemental 'bonus' service in London, and will remain so until
the analogue services are shut down (April 2012 for you). As you've been told,
once the analogue services are shut down, then that will allow the DTT
services to be broadcast at their intended power, 200kW in the case of Crystal
Palace. Only then will coverage match that presently provided for analogue.


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Mark
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In article ,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:26:12 +0000 (GMT)
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
Oh put a sock in it Plowman. I want a transmission system which
doesn't die completely under interference conditions that the old
analogue system coped perfectly well with.

How many times must you be told that FreeView is running at well under
the ideal power - and will do until analogue is switched off?

So fecking what?? I'm watching it NOW and have problems with it NOW. I
don't care that it'll be better in 2012. Freeview is supposed to be an
analogue replacement NOW. Clearly it is not!

Then get your aerial sorted.

Perhaps you'd explain your noisy analogue pictures - as asked? Which you
apparently consider ok?

You want a description? Ok - snow with some herringbone patterns. The
suddenly it'll vanish. In fact last night it didn't even appear.

Then get your aerial sorted.


Does that help? No , didn't think so. Now back under your bridge.

As has been said you don't want help of any sort. Just making your usual
'point'.

B2003

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Mark Carver wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:26:12 +0000 (GMT)
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

How many times must you be told that FreeView is running at well
under the ideal power - and will do until analogue is switched off?

So fecking what?? I'm watching it NOW and have problems with it NOW.
I don't care that it'll be better in 2012. Freeview is supposed to
be an analogue replacement NOW.

No !!!! Wrong I'm afraid.

It's still a supplemental 'bonus' service in London, and will remain
so until the analogue services are shut down (April 2012 for you). As
you've been told, once the analogue services are shut down, then that
will allow the DTT services to be broadcast at their intended power,
200kW in the case of Crystal Palace. Only then will coverage match
that presently provided for analogue.

I don't know why you bother, Boltar is clearly to thick to understand.
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her wipe out Bunny's world domination.

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:42:41 -0000, "Graham." wrote:



"Max Demian" wrote in message ...
wrote in message ...
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:42:18 +0000 (GMT)
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
If it continues for much longer I intend to. Anyway , this is getting
away from the point. If freeview worked properly this wouldn't be an
issue anyway.

I suggest you invent a transmission system which is totally immune from
interference. Since you obviously know so much.

Oh put a sock in it Plowman. I want a transmission system which doesn't die
completely under interference conditions that the old analogue system coped
perfectly well with.

BTW I can't remember when last I had any man made interference on either
analogue or digital. Reception problems on analogue due to sun spots or
whatever, yes, on analogue. FreeView is fine.

Oh well , if it doesn't happen to you then obviously it NEVER happens. I
guess those of us who suffer from it are just delusional.

No you suffer from analogue ears and eyes. If we had digital ears, everyone would say everything twice or three times over with
overlaps:

"We would we talk would something talk something like something this like this."

Then brief dropouts wouldn't be such a problem.

Maybe Cubists has digital eyes...

What the FEC you are talking about?

nice one!