Digital TV turnover, re tune.

Sorry here is the link to the list:
http://www.freeview.co.uk/freeview/c...20Contacts.pdf



"GTS" wrote in message
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I know you would all like to happily it seems pass this off as female
error but I did retune. I did not add extra channels.
The digibox came up as it always does and asked me to retune. I have
done it three times before because this was a regular thing over the
previous few weeks in my area.

SNIP

I retuned many boxes and TV's on the 30th Sept, and it is amazing how many
different methods were needed on the various makes and models of TV and
box. But you do say "The digibox came up as it always does and asked me to
retune" - and I know from my own TV that this prompted rescan does not
then do a full, total, rescan, and you then end up with channels in the
800 range. To do a full rescan of all channels you need to do a first-time
install, plug-and-play, or factory reset - as per the digitaluk
instructions:
a.. Switch on your Freeview TV or box and press 'menu' on the remote
control
a.. Select the 'set up' or 'installation' option then 'first time
installation' option (sometimes called 'factory reset', 'full retune' or
'default settings').
a.. Press 'OK' if your equipment asks if you want to delete all your
channels Don't worry this is normal.
a.. If you are prompted for a code, try 0000 or 1234. Channels will be
automatically installed. Your equipment may shut down and restart.
I still got caught out by a Phillips TV, because the factory reset (that
was called plug-and-play on the Phillips TV) option was not available - I
checked the manual and it said 'the plug and play option is only available
in TV mode'. Now, as I was watching the TV at the time I assumed I was in
'TV mode', but after a while it dawned on me that they meant analogue TV
mode and not DTV mode! Once I switched to analogue and used the
plug-and-play, it got all the channels in the right places!
There is quite a big list of products with known issues, including some
that get the channels in the 800 range, on this page;
http://www.freeview.co.uk/freeview/R...September-2009
Maybe your problem box is on that list?

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:42:28 +0100, "whiskeyomega"
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:22:41 +0100, charles
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In article , whiskeyomega
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probably you haven't "re-tuned" but "added channesl".

Exactly. First you need to remove all of the previously stored
channels - look for something in the menu like 'clear' or 'delete' -
they scan again.

I know you would all like to happily it seems pass this off as female error
but I did retune. I did not add extra channels.
The digibox came up as it always does and asked me to retune. I have done
it three times before because this was a regular thing over the previous few
weeks in my area.


I may be thick but I don't understand why your sex has anything to do
with this. The boxes don't care which variety of genitals you have,
and neither do I.
But my answer stands. You need to look at the menu options and see
which will allow you to remove all of the existing channels *before*
you re-scan. Unfortunately different manufacturers have different
arrangements, but it will be in there somewhere.

On 2009-10-18, lid wrote:

But my answer stands. You need to look at the menu options and see
which will allow you to remove all of the existing channels *before*
you re-scan. Unfortunately different manufacturers have different
arrangements, but it will be in there somewhere.

Do you reckon? When I select automatic scan, an alert says "this will
delete all stored channels! Are you sure?" or somethig similar. (on 3
different boxes, different makes)

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comp.john

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:47:13 +0000 (UTC), "comp.john"
wrote:

On 2009-10-18, lid wrote:

But my answer stands. You need to look at the menu options and see
which will allow you to remove all of the existing channels *before*
you re-scan. Unfortunately different manufacturers have different
arrangements, but it will be in there somewhere.

Do you reckon? When I select automatic scan, an alert says "this will
delete all stored channels! Are you sure?" or somethig similar. (on 3
different boxes, different makes)

Not all boxes do that.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

"GTS" wrote in message
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SNIP


There is quite a big list of products with known issues, including some
that get the channels in the 800 range, on this page;
http://www.freeview.co.uk/freeview/R...September-2009
Maybe your problem box is on that list?

The TV is a Thompson but thedigibox isnt on the list. The digibox is an old
Audioline - must have bought it in 2002?

But it is working and I am not in a hurry to put another first installation
in just because its loaded a bunch of channels into the 800 numbers. I can
live with it .Thanks. .-) Just wanted to know what might have caused it.

"comp.john" wrote in message
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On 2009-10-18, lid wrote:

Do you reckon? When I select automatic scan, an alert says "this will
delete all stored channels! Are you sure?" or somethig similar. (on 3
different boxes, different makes)


Mine does that too ;-) Thats how I know it re tuned but put them on the
wrong numbers. It obviously found something on the original channels too
because they are there even if it says the signal isnt .

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:18:12 +0100, lid wrote:

But my answer stands. You need to look at the menu options and see
which will allow you to remove all of the existing channels *before*
you re-scan. Unfortunately different manufacturers have different
arrangements, but it will be in there somewhere.

I can't remember for sure but I think my Panasonic removes all the
existing channels by default before a re-scan.

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd www.NPSL1.com

In article ,
whiskeyomega wrote:

"comp.john" wrote in message
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On 2009-10-18, lid wrote:

Do you reckon? When I select automatic scan, an alert says "this will
delete all stored channels! Are you sure?" or somethig similar. (on 3
different boxes, different makes)


Mine does that too ;-) Thats how I know it re tuned but put them on the
wrong numbers. It obviously found something on the original channels
too because they are there even if it says the signal isnt .

I don't think so. If the channels are in their old places, then it hasn't
done a "delete old channels".

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

"whiskeyomega" wrote in message
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"comp.john" wrote in message
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On 2009-10-18, lid wrote:

Do you reckon? When I select automatic scan, an alert says "this will
delete all stored channels! Are you sure?" or somethig similar. (on 3
different boxes, different makes)

Mine does that too ;-) Thats how I know it re tuned but put them on the
wrong numbers. It obviously found something on the original channels too
because they are there even if it says the signal isnt .

So your box could have located and stored channels from another, weaker,
transmitter, then when the scan reached the proper transmitter the box had
to put the channels it found in the 800s. An automatic scan will scan the
whole UHF band looking for digital signals.

The solution is to do a 'manual scan', selecting the actual UHF
channels/frequencies that are correct for your area and the direction of
your aerial. http://www.wolfbane.com/cgi-bin/tvd.exe will enable you to look
up what these are, but note that, in this case, you will almost certainly
have to delete all the channels first.

--
Max Demian

Why has no-one given the correct answer?

It is because the software of the older unit cannot handle the
operational changes that have been made to DTTV. Some boxes
stopped working altogether, others put the BBC channels at and
above 800.

It doesn't follow that because the box is not on the list that it
should work. By the OPs own admission it must have been one of
the very earliest DTTV boxes - only just after On-dodgy - so it
is very unlikely that it can handle the changes.

By the same token I have a Pace DT210F which is on the 'will not
work' list but it is working perfectly.

Simple answer - go buy a new box, then only cost about 20 quid
for heaven's sake!


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Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com