Let's compile a register of how well receivers retuned today

Bill Wright wrote:
"Roderick Stewart" wrote
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In article , Paul Ratcliffe
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That is what the manual tunning option does (well limited
to one UHF channel) surely?

Or do not all digital tuners have this ability?

No, they most certainly do not. The one I am cursing at the moment
is a Panasonic TV which has "DVB Auto Setup" and *absolutely nothing*
else.

Same with my Panasonic PVR. Autoscanning with various attenuators in
the aerial feed worked for me.

Where appropriate I now give the customer an attenuator and explain
how to use it. The value is determined by the strength of the weanted
channels. This solves most problems.

Bill

Is 'weanted' a Yorkshire word I've never heard of?
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her wipe out Bunny's world domination.

Typical lack of real interest/expertise at Humax. They still haven't
fixed the 9200T late start/early finish bug using "Accurate Record"
My next PVR will be a Sony, where I am reliably informed they do the right
thing in software!

As has been mentioned before, in this thread and elsewhere, and for any
future 9200T retune :

1. Clear channel list
2. Automatic retune
3. Switch to standby and return to re-order EPG list correctly.

NOTE : The "factory reset", restore defaults will wipe *every* setting in
the box.

Very unsatisfactory.

Richard

Sadly, this is all music to my ears. I thought I was waging a one man war
against Humax over a 3 year old 17" TV which has crashed and spluttered
since new despite very good signal levels.
It needs re-booting about 75% of the time when switched from analogue (in
house Sky feed) to DTTV.

Humax don't want to know. I've phoned, written, faxed and emailed and they
ignore me, Now I just tell anyone I can to avoid Humax products at all
costs.

Such a pity. A good looking product which works well when the software isn't
protesting.

"Adrian" wrote in message
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Bill Wright wrote:
"Roderick Stewart" wrote
in message
.myzen.co.uk...
In article , Paul Ratcliffe
wrote:

That is what the manual tunning option does (well limited
to one UHF channel) surely?

Or do not all digital tuners have this ability?

No, they most certainly do not. The one I am cursing at the moment
is a Panasonic TV which has "DVB Auto Setup" and *absolutely nothing*
else.

Same with my Panasonic PVR. Autoscanning with various attenuators in
the aerial feed worked for me.

Where appropriate I now give the customer an attenuator and explain
how to use it. The value is determined by the strength of the weanted
channels. This solves most problems.

Bill

Is 'weanted' a Yorkshire word I've never heard of?

Yes. It means something that you want as much as a recently weaned infant
wants its mother's nipple.

Bill

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Why on earth isn't there a proper spec for DTT boxes? Or at least, why
don't manufacturers build in some sensible tuning options? For instance:
1. Ability to set tuning limits to a given range of channels
2. Ability to set the desired transmitter ID.
3. Ability to not scan certain designated channels.
4. Ability to ignore muxes below a certain settable quality threshold.


Come on , you know what the general public are like - what percentage of
users would understand and want those features?
1% at most? Where's the incentive for the manufacturers to introduce
them?

A lot of boxes are sold and installed by independents.

Not as many as are churned out by Argos , Currys and supermarkets.

And not all the public is thick. I'd put your 1% at 10%.

I genuinely believe that if you stopped 100 people in the street , less than
10% would know what a multiplex was.

Mind you, I'm in Yorkshire, where the general public is famed for it's
intelligence.


And tight wallets.
If your features add more than tuppence to the price then it's too pricey by
far.

--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger , then I hide until it goes away"

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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A lot of boxes are sold and installed by independents. And not all the
public is thick. I'd put your 1% at 10%. Mind you, I'm in Yorkshire, where
the general public is famed for it's intelligence.

They are just Geordies who have had their brains removed.
--
JohnT

"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in
message ...
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
Come on , you know what the general public are like - what percentage of
users would understand and want those features?
1% at most? Where's the incentive for the manufacturers to introduce
them?

A lot of boxes are sold and installed by independents.

Not as many as are churned out by Argos , Currys and supermarkets.
No, but if you can gain market advantage by only a few percent it's worth
while.


And not all the public is thick. I'd put your 1% at 10%.

I genuinely believe that if you stopped 100 people in the street , less
than 10% would know what a multiplex was.
If you stopped them in the street, yes. But if they are at home figuring out
how to tune-in their box, with Google at their disposal, I think they'll do
better.


Mind you, I'm in Yorkshire, where the general public is famed for it's
intelligence.


And tight wallets.
Nay lad. Wallets are for puffs. We keep us money in us back pockets. Nobady
goes near OUR bums!

Bill

"JohnT" wrote in message
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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A lot of boxes are sold and installed by independents. And not all the
public is thick. I'd put your 1% at 10%. Mind you, I'm in Yorkshire,
where the general public is famed for it's intelligence.

They are just Geordies who have had their brains removed.

Ha! My friend had to have a camera poked up her ear on Friday! She watched
on a large screen. A small grey object swam into view. The nurse told her it
was her brain!

Bill

Bill Wright wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:
"Roderick Stewart" wrote
in message
.myzen.co.uk...
In article , Paul Ratcliffe
wrote:

That is what the manual tunning option does (well limited
to one UHF channel) surely?

Or do not all digital tuners have this ability?

No, they most certainly do not. The one I am cursing at the moment
is a Panasonic TV which has "DVB Auto Setup" and *absolutely
nothing* else.

Same with my Panasonic PVR. Autoscanning with various attenuators
in the aerial feed worked for me.

Where appropriate I now give the customer an attenuator and explain
how to use it. The value is determined by the strength of the
weanted channels. This solves most problems.

Bill

Is 'weanted' a Yorkshire word I've never heard of?

Yes. It means something that you want as much as a recently weaned
infant wants its mother's nipple.

Bill

Thanks for clearing that up.
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her wipe out Bunny's world domination.

Fred Bloggs wrote:
In article , Clem Dye writes

apparently it's a known issue. They've promised to send me a cam with a
software update on it that supposedly fixes the issue.

cam?

CAM - conditional access module. My Panasonic has a cam slot to support
the likes of TopUpTV on Freeview (I suppose) but the slot can also be
used to flash the receiver's firmware. Happily, the cam arrived today,
but I've yet to try the update to see if it fixes things.

Clem

Clem Dye wrote:
Fred Bloggs wrote:
In article , Clem Dye writes

apparently it's a known issue. They've promised to send me a cam with
a software update on it that supposedly fixes the issue.

cam?

CAM - conditional access module. My Panasonic has a cam slot to support
the likes of TopUpTV on Freeview (I suppose) but the slot can also be
used to flash the receiver's firmware. Happily, the cam arrived today,
but I've yet to try the update to see if it fixes things.

Clem

Well, as I follow-up I'm pleased to report that the software update
fixed my tuning issues. Nice one Panasonic. Contrast that with Sony - I
had something similar a while back with a Sony PVR. Sony's response:
"Sounds like firmware, but you'll need to take it to a Sony service
centre for attention. It will cost in the region of GBP50 just to look
at it. We can't send out firmware." Much as I like Sony gear, I'm not
sure I'd buy it again, given that response.

Clem