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  #21  
Old August 23rd 09, 06:49 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Stephen Wolstenholme
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:04:07 +0100, "Adrian" wrote:

Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:21:51 +0100, "Adrian" wrote:

Even more annoying, ITV have started advertising future programmes
_during_ current ones. I only discover this after removing the
commercial breaks prior to watching. In future no doubt I'll be
watching more rented DVDs.


Some rented DVD's also carry adverts. There's no escape!

Steve


But at least they don't overlay the actual programme which some channels
have started doing recently. DOGs were just the thin end of the wedge.


Ah yes, DOGs. Even some of the BBC channels have started using DOGs.
The BBC3 DOG is nearly as intrusive as the commercial channels. DOGs
are an insult to viewers intelligence.

I tried to watch a recording of a FIVE USA program the other day but
gave up after a few minutes.

Steve

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Old August 23rd 09, 09:59 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Adrian C
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Scott wrote:
Understand the manufacturers have to pay TV license to Thomson. Is it
still valid of the patent as TV has invented for long time?


No. If you are refering to the Telefunken PAL system, _that_ expired in
the mid seventies.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/bruchs-pal-color-television (radiomuseum.org)

In the UK, the users must pay TV license ...


(another type of licenxe)


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Old August 24th 09, 02:20 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In message , Stephen
Wolstenholme writes
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:04:07 +0100, "Adrian" wrote:

Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:21:51 +0100, "Adrian" wrote:

Even more annoying, ITV have started advertising future programmes
_during_ current ones. I only discover this after removing the
commercial breaks prior to watching. In future no doubt I'll be
watching more rented DVDs.

Some rented DVD's also carry adverts. There's no escape!

Steve


But at least they don't overlay the actual programme which some channels
have started doing recently. DOGs were just the thin end of the wedge.


Ah yes, DOGs. Even some of the BBC channels have started using DOGs.
The BBC3 DOG is nearly as intrusive as the commercial channels. DOGs
are an insult to viewers intelligence.

I tried to watch a recording of a FIVE USA program the other day but
gave up after a few minutes.

Steve

I've long suspected that after DSO, all of them will have DOG.
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Old August 24th 09, 09:12 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Adrian C" wrote in message
...
Scott wrote:
Understand the manufacturers have to pay TV license to
Thomson. Is it still valid of the patent as TV has invented
for long time?


No. If you are refering to the Telefunken PAL system, _that_
expired in the mid seventies.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/bruchs-pal-color-television
(radiomuseum.org)

In the UK, the users must pay TV license ...


(another type of licenxe)


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For heaven's sake - licenCe!!!


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Old August 24th 09, 09:26 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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No No, not internet. I'm talking about the card reader socket being
carefully shoved onto the back of recent products without anyone really
knowing why. The ads would be on the transmission, but removable by the
system in a way a bit like subtitles are. This could be locked on unless the
card reader and card for that year were used.

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"Stephen Wolstenholme" wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 13:20:55 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Just had a great idea for future of bib. No need for detector vans or post
code chasing.

Simply really.
You make all bbc transmissions with nice internet like adverts
superimposed on them or scrolling across on all channels, but all
receivers
with that new socket can have a card reader plugged in and when you pay
your
licence, and insert the card, all the adverts go away!

ducks hbehind nearest potted plant.

Brian


No doubt the method has already been considered. It would need some
special TV technology. We can't assume everyone has an Internet TV
connection.

AAMOI, my old auntie in LA told me she once had some local TV channel
that she could pay for with no adverts or get it for free with
adverts. She says the choice was available years ago but she does not
know if it is still available. She no longer watches TV at all.

Such a dual choice channel must be the best solution.

Steve

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Old August 24th 09, 10:31 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Woody" wrote in message
...
"Adrian C" wrote in message
...
Scott wrote:

In the UK, the users must pay TV license ...


(another type of licenxe)


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For heaven's sake - licenCe!!!


Now don't go getting incenced about it ;-)

Roger R


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Old August 24th 09, 10:51 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
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IMO Freeview has been a disaster. Yes, we have digital telly, but with
too many channels of complete crap a la the American model. This thing
of repeats+1 of repeats (C4+1, More 4, Dave, Dave ja vu) is a joke.
[snip]


I thought everything American just has to be better and aped here.

For many viewers the more channels the better, regardless of content.
How many satellite receivers are promoted making a feature of 'receive over
X000 channels' as a selling point.

It is easy to use the skip/delete channels facility so that only a small
selection are ever seen, but I bet the majority of viewers don't do that,
instead including all available channels in the list.

Roger R






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Old August 24th 09, 11:32 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Stephen Wolstenholme
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:20:23 +0100, Ian
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I've long suspected that after DSO, all of them will have DOG.


The excuse is that there will be so many channels we will need DOGs to
know what which channel we are watching! That's why I think DOGs are
an insult to our intelligence.

Steve

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Old August 24th 09, 02:13 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:30:44 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

I've never heard of such a thing. In fact I had a major row on the phone with
a chap from the ITC about 12 years ago, when I'd complained to them that C4
were not sending a PDC 'stop' flag until after the ad break, after the
programme in question. If I'd set up a recording on say BBC 2 straight after,
my VCR would still be locked to C4 until that stop signal, and I'd often have
the start of the following BBC prog chopped off. I could understand them
wanting you to record the ads during a programme, but why after. Anyway the
ITC bloke just would not accept my argument, even when I asked him whether
he'd sit through such ads himself ?


You couldn't understand that, as a commercial broadcaster, he HAD to
prioritise the adverts over the service to you? Any hint of a system
that could be used to skip adverts, ANY adverts, would be commercial
suicide.

Do the BBC send the flag before or after the inter-programme
"announcements"?
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Old August 24th 09, 03:01 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Mike Tomlinson wrote:
Another bugbear is the way the volume leaps when the adverts start.


I keep on reading this - but don't notice it most of the time. Of course
it could depend on the channel you're watching.

I watched the repeat of Lewis followed by Gunrush on ITV last night - so
four hours in all. And it wasn't apparent then.

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