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Just had a great idea for future of bib. No need for detector vans or post
code chasing.

Simply really.
You make all bbc transmissions with nice internet like adverts
superimposed on them or scrolling across on all channels, but all receivers
with that new socket can have a card reader plugged in and when you pay your
licence, and insert the card, all the adverts go away!

ducks hbehind nearest potted plant.

Brian

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On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:48:02 +0100, Alan
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In message , Scott
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In the UK, the users must pay TV license of 131.5 pounds per year. Is
it still valid in the UK or any change in the fee?


Still valid and 142.50 pounds for colour TV

Worth every penny to avoid the commercial channels.

Steve

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And who told the spellchecker to change bbc to bib?
Brian

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Just had a great idea for future of bib. No need for detector vans or post
code chasing.

Simply really.
You make all bbc transmissions with nice internet like adverts
superimposed on them or scrolling across on all channels, but all
receivers with that new socket can have a card reader plugged in and when
you pay your licence, and insert the card, all the adverts go away!

ducks hbehind nearest potted plant.

Brian

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On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:48:02 +0100, Alan
wrote:

In message , Scott
wrote


In the UK, the users must pay TV license of 131.5 pounds per year. Is
it still valid in the UK or any change in the fee?


Still valid and 142.50 pounds for colour TV

Worth every penny to avoid the commercial channels.

Steve

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Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article , Mark Carver
writes

Why would the regulator force the commercial channels to create a system that
would allow viewers to avoid their funding system !?

You want to watch in real time, you get the ads whether you like it or
not (e.g. live football). Record and have the option to skip the ads.
I can do it with my PVR anyway, I just FF past the ads, but I thought
there had been agreement (this would have been several years ago) to
transmit a signal to indicate the start and stop of the ads, but can
imagine that this would have been heavily opposed by the advertisers.

I've never heard of such a thing. In fact I had a major row on the phone with
a chap from the ITC about 12 years ago, when I'd complained to them that C4
were not sending a PDC 'stop' flag until after the ad break, after the
programme in question. If I'd set up a recording on say BBC 2 straight after,
my VCR would still be locked to C4 until that stop signal, and I'd often have
the start of the following BBC prog chopped off. I could understand them
wanting you to record the ads during a programme, but why after. Anyway the
ITC bloke just would not accept my argument, even when I asked him whether
he'd sit through such ads himself ?

Like you, I have PVRs, and very rarely see ads these days.

IMO Freeview has been a disaster. Yes, we have digital telly, but with
too many channels of complete crap a la the American model. This thing
of repeats+1 of repeats (C4+1, More 4, Dave, Dave ja vu) is a joke. Why
not use that bandwidth to transmit the five current terrestrial channels
in HD instead?

I agree, there's all this excitement about DVB-T2 and its extra payload, which
of course will simply be hijacked to provide more so called 'choice' and
financed how exactly ?

We could ditch half the crap on Freeview and have enough bandwidth to
broadcast HD services using DVB-T1, although of course new receivers would
still be required, but the technical quality of existing 'worthwhile' SD
services would not be compromised.


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On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 13:20:55 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Just had a great idea for future of bib. No need for detector vans or post
code chasing.

Simply really.
You make all bbc transmissions with nice internet like adverts
superimposed on them or scrolling across on all channels, but all receivers
with that new socket can have a card reader plugged in and when you pay your
licence, and insert the card, all the adverts go away!

ducks hbehind nearest potted plant.

Brian

No doubt the method has already been considered. It would need some
special TV technology. We can't assume everyone has an Internet TV
connection.

AAMOI, my old auntie in LA told me she once had some local TV channel
that she could pay for with no adverts or get it for free with
adverts. She says the choice was available years ago but she does not
know if it is still available. She no longer watches TV at all.

Such a dual choice channel must be the best solution.

Steve

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On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:10:11 +0100, Mike Tomlinson
wrote:


IMO Freeview has been a disaster. Yes, we have digital telly, but with
too many channels of complete crap a la the American model. This thing
of repeats+1 of repeats (C4+1, More 4, Dave, Dave ja vu) is a joke.

It brings in more advertising revenue for a limited cost.

Why
not use that bandwidth to transmit the five current terrestrial channels
in HD instead?

Who will fund that. The commercial channels are having enough trouble
keeping their existing services going with the reduced advertising
income they are getting. Paying extra to transmit HD would put them
closer to a visit to the bankruptcy court.

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Peter Duncanson wrote:

Why
not use that bandwidth to transmit the five current terrestrial channels
in HD instead?

Who will fund that. The commercial channels are having enough trouble
keeping their existing services going with the reduced advertising
income they are getting. Paying extra to transmit HD would put them
closer to a visit to the bankruptcy court.

Could be true, so I wonder come Dec 4th in Granadaland, the only HD service
available on the new DVB-T2 mux will be BBC HD ?


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Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article , Stephen
Wolstenholme writes

Worth every penny to avoid the commercial channels.

Agreed. The advertising on ITV is getting ever more desperate. It
won't be long before they adopt American-style advertising, where as a
film progresses, the adverts come in every 15 min, then 10, then 5.

Weren't the commercial channels supposed to have been forced to
transmit a signal when the adverts started to allow people to record
a programme without the ads? What happened to that?

Another bugbear is the way the volume leaps when the adverts start.
It's inconsiderate. If I want to listen to the ****ing adverts, I
will, don't force them on me. Is there a petition or something
against this?

Even more annoying, ITV have started advertising future programmes _during_
current ones. I only discover this after removing the commercial breaks
prior to watching. In future no doubt I'll be watching more rented DVDs.
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Mark Carver wrote:
Peter Duncanson wrote:

Why
not use that bandwidth to transmit the five current terrestrial
channels in HD instead?

Who will fund that. The commercial channels are having enough trouble
keeping their existing services going with the reduced advertising
income they are getting. Paying extra to transmit HD would put them
closer to a visit to the bankruptcy court.

Could be true, so I wonder come Dec 4th in Granadaland, the only HD
service available on the new DVB-T2 mux will be BBC HD ?

No, ITV have already said they intend to start their HD service on the same
day.
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:21:51 +0100, "Adrian" wrote:

Even more annoying, ITV have started advertising future programmes _during_
current ones. I only discover this after removing the commercial breaks
prior to watching. In future no doubt I'll be watching more rented DVDs.

Some rented DVD's also carry adverts. There's no escape!

Steve

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Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:21:51 +0100, "Adrian" wrote:

Even more annoying, ITV have started advertising future programmes
_during_ current ones. I only discover this after removing the
commercial breaks prior to watching. In future no doubt I'll be
watching more rented DVDs.

Some rented DVD's also carry adverts. There's no escape!

Steve

But at least they don't overlay the actual programme which some channels
have started doing recently. DOGs were just the thin end of the wedge.
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