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Old August 15th 09, 08:41 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky
JoeJoe
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Default New aerials/cables advice please - chapter 2...


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"JoeJoe" wrote in message
o.uk...

Does that mean that I was sent a mix-and-match section - i.e. E-type
boom, and WB reflectors?


Could you provide
a picture of the aerial viewed from above, showing the element lengths and
spacings, with a foot ruler in the picture
The length of the reflectors
the length of the folded dipole ignoring the extra length caused by the
curved end -- the breadth in other words
the length of the director nearest the dipole
the length of the director farthest from the dipole
the distance from the centre of the dipole to the centre of the farthest
director?

Measurements do not need to be fanatically accurate.


See photos of aerial with tape measure here (opens to exactly 1 foot - see
red marking on tape):
http://tinypic.com/r/1z5pu0k/3
http://tinypic.com/r/jptnhi/3

I also took some more accurate measurements - see here (not in perspective
to simplify matters):
http://tinypic.com/r/5l0y9c/3

Assuming the aerial is a Gp E, the cradle probably won't fit between the
elements properly. It's a common problem. Just shave a bit off on side of
one or both cradle clips, so it will fit. The cradle must of course span
the boom join.


That's not a problem - I can do that. BTW, do you mean that the cradle needs
to be fitted as described in the instructions, or would the way I fitted it
be ok? Following the instructions will make it even more off balance, as
they way I fitted it meant that it was closer to the reflectors (but not in
equal distance on either side of the bracket). Doed the poition of the
cradle have any effect on the reception?

Thanks again.


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Old August 15th 09, 10:01 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky
Alan[_4_]
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Default OT New aerials/cables advice please - chapter 2...

In message , JoeJoe
wrote

http://tinypic.com/r/1z5pu0k/3


OT
There is an advert on that page (for an IQ test) that says

"What is your level of intelligence?"

"Which of the following numbers appears on the image?"

Three options for the answer are given 75, 94 or 74

The image is a standard (Ishihara?) colour blind test image to detect
red-green deficiencies.

What correlation is there between IQ and colour blindness?

A colour blind test can be found at
http://virtualcampus.kcl.ac.uk/colourblindness/
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Old August 15th 09, 11:03 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky
Roderick Stewart[_2_]
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Default OT New aerials/cables advice please - chapter 2...

In article , Alan wrote:
http://tinypic.com/r/1z5pu0k/3


OT
There is an advert on that page (for an IQ test) that says

"What is your level of intelligence?"

"Which of the following numbers appears on the image?"

Three options for the answer are given 75, 94 or 74

The image is a standard (Ishihara?) colour blind test image to detect
red-green deficiencies.

What correlation is there between IQ and colour blindness?


I think it's testing to see if you're intelligent enough to realise
that there isn't any.

Rod.
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Old August 16th 09, 12:20 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky
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Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:18:19 +0100, Conor wrote:

In article ,
JoeJoe says...

I tried to phone them once I realised the fixing bracket was broken
at 16:00 yesterday, but there was no one there... I may have to
try and speak to someone on Monday morning to try and make sense of
it.


If you can't even bolt a simple TV aerial together, you're going to
be stuffed for the rest of it. Maybe you should phone your new mate
Bill to come and fit it. After all, it was Bill who recommended that
lovely aerial that's currently making you look dumber than a
chimpanzee.


Why do you have to be so rude?


Because he's an imbecile and can't help it.
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Old August 16th 09, 03:47 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky
Bill Wright
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"JoeJoe" wrote in message
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See photos of aerial with tape measure here (opens to exactly 1 foot - see
red marking on tape):
http://tinypic.com/r/1z5pu0k/3
http://tinypic.com/r/jptnhi/3

I also took some more accurate measurements - see here (not in perspective
to simplify matters):
http://tinypic.com/r/5l0y9c/3


It's a Gp E. Dipole is same as a B, but directors are shorter.


Assuming the aerial is a Gp E, the cradle probably won't fit between the
elements properly. It's a common problem. Just shave a bit off on side of
one or both cradle clips, so it will fit. The cradle must of course span
the boom join.


That's not a problem - I can do that. BTW, do you mean that the cradle
needs to be fitted as described in the instructions, or would the way I
fitted it be ok?

Yes, course it would.

Following the instructions will make it even more off balance,

Blake's instructions are ********. Don't run the cable off the way they say.
Tape it every inch of the way. If the dipole orientation makes the cable
come off towards the reflector take it off (you have to take the reflector
bracket off to do this) and turn it round, so you can run the cable towards
the cradle, then down same to mast.

they way I fitted it meant that it was closer to the reflectors (but not
in equal distance on either side of the bracket). Doed the poition of the
cradle have any effect on the reception?

No. Just do it as you see fit. Come on, it's Sunday, the sun's out. Get on
that roof boy!

Bill


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Old August 16th 09, 04:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Geo[_3_]
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:47:26 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

No. Just do it as you see fit. Come on, it's Sunday, the sun's out. Get on
that roof boy!


Unless you are in Central Scotland where it is squally and gusting 30 knots...

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Old August 16th 09, 04:50 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Geo" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:47:26 +0100, "Bill Wright"

wrote:

No. Just do it as you see fit. Come on, it's Sunday, the sun's out. Get on
that roof boy!


Unless you are in Central Scotland where it is squally and gusting 30
knots...



Exactly where I am! With a bit of rain for good measure...


Still waiting for a replacement for the chimney bracket hat arived broken,
so can't do it today anyway.


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Old August 16th 09, 09:05 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright
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"Geo" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:47:26 +0100, "Bill Wright"

wrote:

No. Just do it as you see fit. Come on, it's Sunday, the sun's out. Get on
that roof boy!


Unless you are in Central Scotland where it is squally and gusting 30
knots...


I'm surprised at that because my daughter is at the festival and says the
weather yesterday was beautiful.

Bill


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Old August 16th 09, 09:06 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright
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"JoeJoe" wrote in message
o.uk...

"Geo" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:47:26 +0100, "Bill Wright"

wrote:

No. Just do it as you see fit. Come on, it's Sunday, the sun's out. Get
on
that roof boy!


Unless you are in Central Scotland where it is squally and gusting 30
knots...



Exactly where I am! With a bit of rain for good measure...


Still waiting for a replacement for the chimney bracket hat


I say, the milliners in your area must be very innovative!

bill


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Old August 16th 09, 09:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Alan[_4_]
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In message , Bill Wright
wrote


I'm surprised at that because my daughter is at the festival and says the
weather yesterday was beautiful.


The weather is always nice when you're in the pub.

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