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Old August 8th 09, 04:03 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky
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Default New aerials/cables advice please

In article b36ae398-0589-458c-a2e4-e31dee1ceac3
@k26g2000vbp.googlegroups.com, Owain says...

Use a masthead amplifier/splitter and send the power to it up the
downlead from one of the TV points.

Don't. They amplify all the **** as well as what you want and they
fail.

Get 3 decent antennas stuck up there. Maplin do some excellent wideband
ones. They do a 71 element one which is extremely directional with a
good high gain.

- Which cable should I use?


Good quality satellite cable

Agreed. Forget TV co-ax.




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Old August 8th 09, 04:04 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky
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In article , Peter
Crosland says...

Distribution amplifier. Takes the signal from the aerial and amplifies the
signal


....along with all the interference and signals from the continent....



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Old August 8th 09, 04:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky
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"Conor" wrote in message
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In article b36ae398-0589-458c-a2e4-e31dee1ceac3
@k26g2000vbp.googlegroups.com, Owain says...

Use a masthead amplifier/splitter and send the power to it up the
downlead from one of the TV points.

Don't. They amplify all the **** as well as what you want and they
fail.

Get 3 decent antennas stuck up there. Maplin do some excellent wideband
ones. They do a 71 element one which is extremely directional with a
good high gain.



Plumps up cushions, opens popcorn, finds laptop charging
lead.........................................

To OP if you follow this advice; remove everything from under the aerial
location with three high gain 71 element arrays on a single mast.
Also, leave up the original three, add some more and call it modern art
http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/aerialp...odern/015.html

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Old August 8th 09, 04:38 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky
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Default New aerials/cables advice please

On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:04:11 +0100, Conor wrote:

...along with all the interference and signals from the continent....


What is the difference between "signals" and "interference".

Are not signals which do not interfere a good thing?

Or is this some sort of communist plot?

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Old August 8th 09, 04:39 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky
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On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:03:40 +0100, Conor wrote:

Agreed. Forget TV co-ax.


Satellite cable is coaxial cable.

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Old August 8th 09, 04:46 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky
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In article , J G Miller says...

What is the difference between "signals" and "interference".

One you want and one you don't.

Are not signals which do not interfere a good thing?

That's the point. You'll amplify those that do interfere.



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Old August 8th 09, 04:47 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky
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In article , J G Miller says...

On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:03:40 +0100, Conor wrote:

Agreed. Forget TV co-ax.


Satellite cable is coaxial cable.


Satellite cable is not TV co-ax.

If you want to be pedantic, I could actually say there is no such thing
as satellite cable.

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Old August 8th 09, 06:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky
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Conor wrote:
In article , Peter
Crosland says...

Distribution amplifier. Takes the signal from the aerial and
amplifies the signal


...along with all the interference and signals from the continent....


Don't buy a laptop from this man, he hasn't got a ****ung clue.


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Old August 8th 09, 07:18 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky
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"Java Jive" wrote in message
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I'd rather leave answering your specific question to the pros.

Generally, it's usually best to put an amplifier as close as possible
to the aerial, hence Owain's suggestion of a masthead amplifier.
These, as their name suggests, are clamped 1-2m down the mast from the
aerial. As Owain has indicated, they are powered by DC superimposed
on the AC of the aerial signal itself. The DC often comes from a
suitable distribution amp - you'd either have to buy them as a
paired kit or check that the distribution amp can supply DC - or a
standalone PSU through which the aerial signal passes on the way to
the TV Wall Socket.

But it rather depends on your signal level. You may not actually need
a masthead amplifier if the rest of your system is up to scratch, in
which case putting one in would be a waste of money and I believe can
even be counter-productive.

It might be an idea to tell us what signal levels you get on a
Freeview box, then those here in the know will be able to give more
specific advice.


My 3 aerials look like this: http://tinypic.com/r/11qh3c0/3

As you can see two face in the same direction, the third slightly off... I
am not sure though which of them is the one that I manage to get something
out of.

The signal on a rather old Philips FV box shows as around 30% signal
strength, and 100% signal quality.

The neighbours' aerials - see here http://tinypic.com/r/2myq1sg/3 - with
our houses perfectly aligned - face around 10 degrees off mine.

I may not have put it clearly enough, but I am looking for a cost effective
solution, not a state of the art one. Our main viewing is through Sky, not
Freeview, and we are merely looking for a backup solution + a FV for one
spare TV in the kids playroom.


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Old August 8th 09, 08:16 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky
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In article , Adrian
says...

Conor wrote:
In article , Peter
Crosland says...

Distribution amplifier. Takes the signal from the aerial and
amplifies the signal


...along with all the interference and signals from the continent....


Don't buy a laptop from this man, he hasn't got a ****ung clue.


More of a clue about everything compared to you. It would seem that
radio communications is another thing to add to the list.

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