Tories propose 80 local TV stations

"Java Jive" wrote in message
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The BBC was considered 'highbrow' and 'intellectual',
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With such highbrow entertainment as..

Call my Bluff
What's my line
The Grove family
Dixon of dock green
Dr. Kildare
Perry Mason
The Phil Silvers show
Z cars
Come dancing..

and that's just quickly off the top of my head, I expect that others can add
many more 'Intellectual' programmes to the list, to be perfectly honest I
don't think that things have changed an awful lot, (even down to the
ballroom dancing programmes!) It's just that things always appear so much
better with hindsight, Although I agree that we did have programs like the
'Sky at Night' presented by a bloke called Patrick Moore, I don't suppose
anyone remembers it nowadays...

Ivan wrote:

"Java Jive" wrote in message
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The BBC was considered 'highbrow' and 'intellectual',
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With such highbrow entertainment as..

Call my Bluff
What's my line
The Grove family
Dixon of dock green
Dr. Kildare
Perry Mason
The Phil Silvers show
Z cars
Come dancing..

Quite !

And at the same time so called 'lowbrow' ITV programming such as:-

Brideshead Revisited
Jewel In The Crown
Rumpole
Morse
Weekend World
World in Action
This Week
A Fine Romance
The Prisoner (just the sort of experimental risk taking programming
people say only the Beeb were capable of)

Can anyone name anything from the 60s/70s from the Beeb that was even
half as stylish as the Avengers, or half as realistically 'gritty' as
the Thames/Euston Films stuff such as Fox, Out, or Minder ?

"charles" wrote in message
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It wouldn't be just having very narrow beam width, it would mean keeping
the position of the satellite to a very tight accuracy. Imagine a
fraction
of a degree variation giving Derby signals meant for Nottingham - the
riots that would ensue ....

I don't know whether that level of stability is difficult or not, its quite
calm up there in space. The reverse would also apply, if, as they might
have us believe, military spy sats are able to focus in detail on small
ground targets, they would need to be even more stable. So perhaps it's
possible.

But satellite broadcasting doesn't change the economics that are discussed
elsewhere in this thread - that commercial TV is a business unable to
attract sufficient advertising to pay its way.

Roger R

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:01:11 +0100, "Roger R"
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"charles" wrote in message
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It wouldn't be just having very narrow beam width, it would mean keeping
the position of the satellite to a very tight accuracy. Imagine a
fraction
of a degree variation giving Derby signals meant for Nottingham - the
riots that would ensue ....

I don't know whether that level of stability is difficult or not, its quite
calm up there in space. The reverse would also apply, if, as they might
have us believe, military spy sats are able to focus in detail on small
ground targets, they would need to be even more stable. So perhaps it's
possible.

I think that military spy satellites tend to be in low Earth orbit. They
zip along at some speed in relation to the Earth's surface. If they take
high-resolution still images stability would be less of an issue as they
would not need to point accurately and continuously at a particular
location on the surface.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


Were you around when there was only BBC1?

Dave - there was never only BBC1.
Before BBC2 started there was only: BBC tv

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In article ,
Roger R wrote:

"charles" wrote in message
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It wouldn't be just having very narrow beam width, it would mean keeping
the position of the satellite to a very tight accuracy. Imagine a
fraction
of a degree variation giving Derby signals meant for Nottingham - the
riots that would ensue ....

I don't know whether that level of stability is difficult or not, its
quite calm up there in space.

from the weather, yes; from garvitational effecty - no. That is why
synchronous satellites expend fuel in keeping their position. When they
run out of fuel the satellite's life has come to an end.

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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

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charles wrote:
Were you around when there was only BBC1?

Dave - there was never only BBC1.
Before BBC2 started there was only: BBC tv

Yes, pet. ;-)

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:51:40 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
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Were you around when there was only BBC1? Were shows like the Appleyards

Don't remember that, so can't comment.

and The Billy Cotton Band Show 'highbrow'?

It's perhaps not 'highbrow', but I wouldn't call it 'lowbrow' either.
Somewhere in between.

You must have very restricted pals. As a bit of camp it's near unbeatable.

Not really, there was a wide range of backgrounds when I was at
college towards the end of its run.

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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:51:40 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
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and The Billy Cotton Band Show 'highbrow'?

It's perhaps not 'highbrow', but I wouldn't call it 'lowbrow' either.
Somewhere in between.

Allow me to yell in your ear "WAKEY WAKEY!"

Saturday night on the BBC in the early sixties was the biggest load of tat
imaginable:

Dixon of Dock Green
The Billy Cotton Band Show
The Black and White Minstrel Show

Not only did they play to the lowest common denominator - they also
reflected the cosy inward-looking England so fond of some on this group. An
England, incidentally, that never existed.

Sheila

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:21:41 +0100, "Ivan"
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With such highbrow entertainment as..

Call my Bluff

Requires good knowledge of the English language, so definitely
'highbrow' ...

What's my line

Continuation of drawing room pastimes such as playing charades, and
one of the leading panellists was a 'Lady', (even if she did later
commit suicide when unmasked as a kleptomaniac) so definitely
'highbrow' ...

The Grove family

Can't remember it.

Dixon of dock green

Middling, but moralist in tone, so arguably more 'highbrow' than
'lowbrow'

Dr. Kildare

Don't really remember it well enough, one of the early off-the-shelf
purchases from the states, IMS.

Perry Mason

Ditto, and from what little I remember, it was also moralist in tone.

The Phil Silvers show

Yes, that was undeniable crap, but wasn't that later? I can remember
being exasperated with a girlfriend wanting to watch that and Dallas,
which would put it around 1980.

Z cars

Middling, I'd say. What's supposedly 'lowbrow' about it?

Come dancing..

Ditto.

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