No DAB reception in cars near BBC Television Centre!

Bill Wright wrote:
"Richard Evans" wrote in message
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Silk wrote:

DAB reception is flawless in all but the most remote of locations with a
decent in-car setup. This is a simple fact, whether you like it or not.

Who cares if a jogger can't pick up a signal using the headphone cable as
an aerial?
The jogger might care, if he wants to get good reception, but he doesn't
want to attach a whip aerial to the top of his head.
Joggers already look absurd, so an aerial on the head wouldn't detract.

If jogging is so good for you, why do they all look so fat and knackered?

On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:48:29 +0100, Silk wrote:

In the area I travel in (bearing in mind I do a lot of travelling -
around 1,000 miles a week), the areas are very few and far between.
Mainly confined to rural Mid Wales and a few valleys in Devon and
Cornwall. I've never lost reception on any major trunk roads or
motorways, or any major towns and cities and the countryside that
connects them.

Scotland?
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Alan White wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:48:29 +0100, Silk wrote:

In the area I travel in (bearing in mind I do a lot of travelling -
around 1,000 miles a week), the areas are very few and far between.
Mainly confined to rural Mid Wales and a few valleys in Devon and
Cornwall. I've never lost reception on any major trunk roads or
motorways, or any major towns and cities and the countryside that
connects them.

Scotland?

What about it?

On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:38:09 +0100, Silk wrote:

What about it?

Do you drive around Scotland using major trunk roads or motorways, or around any
major towns and cities and the countryside that connects them.
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charles wrote:
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Silk wrote:

Most FM installations in cars have decent, efficient aerials.

they do now, but it took years for that to happen. UK manufacturers
continued to use wing aerials "because that's wheer the stylist said they
had to go" long after everybody else realised that roof aerials were
better. I bought a SEAT in 1996 which had a wing aerial (UK spec) FM
reception was horribly variable, so I had a roof aerial fiited and all was
well.

So my 1999 car with its trendy-at-the time rear wing aerial hasn't a
hope with DAB? That's a pain, because there's so little content on VHF
I was thinking about switching. After all the engine noise means I
won't get a hi-fi experience anyway...

Andy

In article , Silk wrote:
You lot are so anti-DAB it's bordering on a kind of religious
fundamentalism. The reality is it has strengths as well as weaknesses.

I don't see what's religious or fundamental about simply listening and
making up one's mind, which is what I've done. I wouldn't describe
myself as "anti" - just "indifferent", or "disappointed", because I had
hoped DAB was going to sound good, but it doesn't, not to my ears.

Rod.
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Alan White wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:38:09 +0100, Silk wrote:

What about it?

Do you drive around Scotland using major trunk roads or motorways, or around any
major towns and cities and the countryside that connects them.

I never go to Scotland, but I'm guessing DAB would be just fine in the
major population centres.

In article ,
Silk wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Richard Evans wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
We can safely ignore everything you say about in-car DAB reception
from now, Plow********, because virtually everyone else will have a
DAB in-car installation that's worse than yours...
We can safely assume you have no desire to learn about mobile DAB
reception. Have you even got a car?

I think the point is that broadcast systems are normally designed to
work for the vast majority of receiving equipment, not just for the
best equipment.

My point was that just throwing a DAB radio into a car as a
replacement for a factory fit AM/FM one is unlikely to work properly.
With a properly engineered installation, round London, DAB gives
better car reception than FM - as well it might since this is what it
was developed for. Not that the anti-DAB evangelist seems to worry
about poor FM reception that might effect others either.

You're wasting your time with them. I've had a decent DAB setup with a
proper aerial in the car for 3 years now and the reception is very good
indeed. I've certainly never lost reception in a built up area, which is
more than can be said of FM where multipath can make R4 virtually
unlistenable in comparison.

He who creams his pants over FM and makes it a life's work criticising DAB
has proved time and time again that he wouldn't recognise multipath if it
bit him on the arse. Probably because of the crap pop he only listens to.


I've given an honest account of its performance over this time, but I'm
practically called a liar.

Of course. Anyone who doesn't agree with his micron thick views are
obviously that. No wonder he can't get a job.

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In article ,
Silk wrote:
In fact, in the light of the winging on this group, I think most people
would be very surprised at how good DAB coverage is in the UK.

It's very good around the SE coast of England too - an area known for poor
FM.

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In article en.co.uk,
Roderick Stewart wrote:
In article , Silk wrote:
You lot are so anti-DAB it's bordering on a kind of religious
fundamentalism. The reality is it has strengths as well as weaknesses.

I don't see what's religious or fundamental about simply listening and
making up one's mind, which is what I've done. I wouldn't describe
myself as "anti" - just "indifferent", or "disappointed", because I had
hoped DAB was going to sound good, but it doesn't, not to my ears.

Are you discussing DAB sound quality or its reception versus FM in cars?

Rod.

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