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Old June 27th 09, 11:36 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
Ade[_2_]
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DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched off:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/

Please sign. Thanks.


Done and will post link on myh facebook. I don't want to listen to
Classic Fm on DAB, it is awful
  #262  
Old June 27th 09, 11:37 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
Ade[_2_]
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Steve Terry wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote in message
...
There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched off:
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/
Please sign. Thanks.


What's your fecking name, King Canute?

the future is DRM, good job too


Not in this flipping country it is not.
The government know that DAb have failed and that is why they are trying
to force us to use it, DRM will never happen.
  #263  
Old June 28th 09, 12:08 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
jasee wrote:
If it's bubbling you need a stronger signal. There is no
transmission system which works perfectly with an inadequate
signal. And FM can sound quite diabolical with a poor one too.


However, fm simply works less well or switches noiselessly to mono,
digital gives up.


Thought you said you got a bubbling noise?


Not me


  #264  
Old June 28th 09, 03:40 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
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"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Bill Wright
scribeth thus

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , charles
scribeth thus
Since 12" isn't the correct length for Band II, I assume its been
'frigged'
for that band - perhaps to the severe detriment of Band III


No in fact lets assume 300 divide by say mid Band 2 say 98 MHz that
should be 28.5 inches for that assuming a bit for velocity factor in
presumably stainless steel for the aerial whip. So for say 226 MHz thats
around 12.4 inches so its way off for FM and almost spot on for DAB
assuming 226 MHz..


I made my own DAB aerial by trimming and observing gain on 12B and the
length came out at 275mm (from memory; just looked at it out the winder
and
it looks about that length).

Bill



Thats a real pro at work that is..

No it's a real skinflint. The alternative was a Blaupunct one at £30.


Was the aerial insulator made out of some glass spun from a bottle of
old slaughter;?...

Funnily enough, yes.

Bill


  #265  
Old June 28th 09, 11:13 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
On R3? No. My tuner is a very early one from Videologic and when I first
got it thought everything sounded brighter than FM so added an equaliser
to bring it in line.


What's the rest of the line up?...


Depends on where I'm listening. ;-) In this room, a pair of LS3/5s driven
by a Linsey Hood.

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  #266  
Old June 28th 09, 01:35 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
The only station in the UK that uses 192 kbps. Yet Radio 3 still
sounds better on FM.

No it doesn't. Not that you ever listen to it.



Yeah, I've only been reviewing tuners for a hi-fi magazine for the
last 3 - 4 years, and I obviously spend a lot of time comparing R3
on
DAB and FM because the readership disproportinoately consists of R3
listeners, so WTF do I know about it?


Very, very, little if you review such things for a 'Hi-Fi magazine'.



Ah, good old Plowman logic at work: if you work on something therefore
you have low knowledge of what you're working on. Patently absurd,
just like all of Plowman's logic.



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Steve - www.savefm.org - stop the BBC bullies switching off FM

www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - digital radio news & info

"It is the sheer volume of online audio content available via
internet-connected devices which terrifies the UK radio industry. I
believe that broadband-delivered radio will explode in the years to
come, offering very local, unregulated content, as well as opening a
window to the radio stations of the world." - from the Myers Report


  #267  
Old June 28th 09, 02:50 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband
Ian Jackson[_2_]
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In message , Paul Martin
writes
In article ,
Zero Tolerance wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:28:11 +0100, Paul Martin
wrote:


With 128kbps MP2 being Joint (Intensity) Stereo, the stereo image of
some sound effects and atmosphere tends to be muddied. Applause is
particularly difficult to image. On the DSat feeds, JS and Discrete
Stereo are dynamically chosen by the encoder on a block-by-block basis,
but then there is a bit more leeway when you're encoding at 192kbps.


Could it ever be feasible for a multiplex of audio stations to be
dynamically statmuxed together?


Probably not. When the bitrates change on DAB, there's an audible splat
or a short period of silence (depending on the receiver). On Radio 4
this usually means you hear only five of the six pips in the time
signal.

Who cares! They're a second or two too late to be of any use to anyone.
--
Ian
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Old June 28th 09, 03:08 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
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In article ,
Paul Martin wrote:
In article ,
Louis Barfe's IbMePdErRoIoAmL wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Again, that's a particular crap chipset.

Better ones are around..


I'd be interested to see consumption figures for the best and worst of
each type of radio. All I can find are averages.


I have anecdotal evidence that Pure's little portable doesn't eat
batteries too much.


and I've first hand knowledge of that.

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  #269  
Old June 28th 09, 03:08 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
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tony sayer wrote:
In article , Ian
Smith scribeth thus
tony sayer wrote:

Funny that but my wife is a bit too young for listening to the Archers
but shes critical of the sound of FM and low rate DAB!...


I'm glad that she appreciates the benefit of higher rate DAB!

regards, Ian


Yes oddly enough she does .. but it comes via satellite from over in
mainland Europe..


Is that DAB?

I've tried the DVB audio feed from both Freeview boxes I have -
neither are listenable through the HiFi, simply because of poor
circuitry. Theoretically, they should be OK, but the quality level
is clearly aimed at flat screen speakers!

regards, Ian
  #270  
Old June 28th 09, 03:15 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
Ian Smith
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Default Petition to stop FM being switched off

Paul Martin wrote:
In article ,
Louis Barfe's IbMePdErRoIoAmL wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Again, that's a particular crap chipset.

Better ones are around..


I'd be interested to see consumption figures for the best and worst of
each type of radio. All I can find are averages.


I have anecdotal evidence that Pure's little portable doesn't eat
batteries too much.


Their older stuff was pretty heavy on power, and the problem is
added to because they have shied away from switching supplies. Even
their chip supplier was keen that they use linear power bricks to
avoid the noise problems.

regards, Ian
 




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