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  #21  
Old April 14th 09, 09:30 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
J G Miller[_4_]
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On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:02:26 +0100, Graham. wrote:

Given that the broadcasters know that a (small) proportion of the DTT
STB "estate" is 2k mode and/or non split-NIT compliant, it would be
difficult to convince some people that there isn't a conspiracy.


Yes, people will dream up all sorts of ideas even that a neighboUr's receive
only satellite dish is causing interference to their television set.

I am reminded of a story I once read which was supposed to be a real event,
but even if not, demonstrates how people do think. The story, as best I
can remember, is as follows.

A teacher organized a treasure hunt for his class of students.

He told them that he had buried some valuable item in a certain area
(back of the school, in the woods wherever) and led his students to the
place and told them to start looking and start digging. After about 30 minutes
or so, he told them that he had a confession to make. His confession was that
he had lied to them and that he had not buried anything there and took his class
back to the school.

The outcome of this event was that some students continued to look for the
allegedly buried treasure after school for days or even weeks after, even
though the teacher repeatedly told them there was nothing there and that
he had lied to them, because they refused to believe his confession.

So the point being made is that once somebody gets an idea into their head
and they are convinced it is true, no matter how often one repeats the
truth to them, they steadfastly refuse to believe the truth.

then perhaps a consequence of new firmware being deployed.


That sounds like the probable cause.
  #22  
Old April 14th 09, 10:04 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:20:21 +0100, "jamie powell"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:53:24 +0100, "jamie powell"
wrote:


wrote in message
...

Poor Nemo's been imagining things again.
I've told him to get help, but it hasn't worked.


I don't think you realise how serious is your problem.

You are a young man at uni, just beginning to learn about life.
Yet on this NG you are telling everyone that they know nothing about
any topic ranging from web design to international terrorism.

I lost count of the number of people you have insulted in this way
when I used up the fingers on both hands. I suspect that the number is
limited only by those who have chosen to respond. Several of these
people are twice or three times your age with a corresponding length
of experience.

Not once have I seen you agree with anyone.

Do you really, honestly, believe that *everyone* is wrong in
everything they say, and that only *you* have the right answers to
every situation?


Somehow I didn't think you would face up to those questions.


It's all in your head, Nemo.
You know what you have to do.


I admit it Jamie, you are right. It's all in my head.

You didn't tell all those people they were wrong.
Those posts aren't visible to anyone reading this NG.
They aren't available via Google or Yahoo or any other archival
service.

You don't know more about 9/11 than those people.
You don't know more about Vietnam than those people.
You don't know more about websites than those people.
You don't know more about anything than anyone else.

You're not a sad little boy who carries around a giant chip on his
shoulder because his parents couldn't live with him.

Is that what you wanted to hear?
  #23  
Old April 14th 09, 10:06 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Well,
The idiots on this group certainly outnumber intelligent engineering types!
As for conspiracy theories, not once did I mention this in my original post!
When a set continually switches itself off when using freeview, until
contrast is turned down slightly - what conspiracy surrounds that ???
It happens, so I was just seeking an explanation from those with more
technical knowledge, just out of general interest.
I did not expect abusive ranting from a bunch of idiots!


  #24  
Old April 14th 09, 10:50 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , Stefan wrote:
Well,
The idiots on this group certainly outnumber intelligent engineering types!
As for conspiracy theories, not once did I mention this in my original post!
When a set continually switches itself off when using freeview, until
contrast is turned down slightly - what conspiracy surrounds that ???
It happens, so I was just seeking an explanation from those with more
technical knowledge, just out of general interest.
I did not expect abusive ranting from a bunch of idiots!


It's a bit difficult to conclude anything about Freeview, or any other
circumstance surrounding a TV set, from the behaviour of just one TV set. You
might just as well say that since it continually switches itself off whilst
standing on a table, there must be some adverse effect from standing a TV set
on a table, etc, etc...

Meanwhile there are millions of TV sets (my own included if that's of any
consequence) quite happily displaying Freeview pictures without any problems
at all. Take all those into consideration along with yours and the statistics
look a little different. I guess there's probably some odd glitch in the power
supply. It's nothing remarkable; it happens from time to time.

Rod.
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Old April 14th 09, 11:03 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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wrote in message
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I admit it Jamie, you are right. It's all in my head.

You didn't tell all those people they were wrong.
Those posts aren't visible to anyone reading this NG.
They aren't available via Google or Yahoo or any other archival
service.

You don't know more about 9/11 than those people.
You don't know more about Vietnam than those people.
You don't know more about websites than those people.
You don't know more about anything than anyone else.

You're not a sad little boy who carries around a giant chip on his
shoulder because his parents couldn't live with him.

Is that what you wanted to hear?


All I want to hear, Nemo, is an official statement which says that you've
sought help from a psychiatrist, that you're responding to treatment, and
that your mental health is starting to improve.
It's dark in your mind right now, Nemo - the post you've just made proves
that.
You know what you have to do.


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Old April 14th 09, 11:37 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
J G Miller[_4_]
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On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:06:40 +0100, Stefan wrote:

The idiots on this group certainly outnumber intelligent engineering
types!


We already knew that.

As for conspiracy theories, not once did I mention this in my
original post!


So perhaps it is unwise to regard any mention of conspiracy theories
as being directed at yourself.

I did not expect abusive ranting from a bunch of idiots!


I can see no evidence of abusive ranting directed towards yourself.

I can only offer my apologies if you feel you have been abused in any
way by that which I have written.
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Old April 15th 09, 12:16 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"J G Miller" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:06:40 +0100, Stefan wrote:

The idiots on this group certainly outnumber intelligent engineering
types!


We already knew that.

As for conspiracy theories, not once did I mention this in my
original post!


So perhaps it is unwise to regard any mention of conspiracy theories
as being directed at yourself.

I did not expect abusive ranting from a bunch of idiots!


I can see no evidence of abusive ranting directed towards yourself.

I can only offer my apologies if you feel you have been abused in any
way by that which I have written.


And likewise from me Stefan, I only tried to contribute my opinion.
Any drift into the fanciful was not done with your anecdote in mind.

If you want to see real abusive ranting you need to look in a
different branch of this thread (IMHO).


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Old April 15th 09, 12:20 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article ,
Stefan wrote:
Well,
The idiots on this group certainly outnumber intelligent engineering types!
As for conspiracy theories, not once did I mention this in my original post!
When a set continually switches itself off when using freeview, until
contrast is turned down slightly - what conspiracy surrounds that ???
It happens, so I was just seeking an explanation from those with more
technical knowledge, just out of general interest.
I did not expect abusive ranting from a bunch of idiots!



I am aware that some sets used to go into audio mute when there was an
excessive amount of hf on the sound. This gave rise to what was known as
'The Angela Ripon Effect' where these sets muted when she started to talk.
She had excessive high frequencies in her voice and the line to Crystal
Palce was good to 23kHz. Could this be something similar?

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Old April 15th 09, 12:46 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In message , charles
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I am aware that some sets used to go into audio mute when there was an
excessive amount of hf on the sound. This gave rise to what was known as
'The Angela Ripon Effect' where these sets muted when she started to talk.
She had excessive high frequencies in her voice and the line to Crystal
Palce was good to 23kHz. Could this be something similar?

A TV that blows up when it sees Angela Rippon?




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Old April 15th 09, 07:13 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article ,
Bill wrote:
In message , charles
writes
I am aware that some sets used to go into audio mute when there was an
excessive amount of hf on the sound. This gave rise to what was known
as 'The Angela Ripon Effect' where these sets muted when she started to
talk. She had excessive high frequencies in her voice and the line to
Crystal Palce was good to 23kHz. Could this be something similar?

A TV that blows up when it sees Angela Rippon?


no, the sound muted when it heard her.

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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

 




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