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  #11  
Old March 30th 09, 10:25 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Max Demian
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"tim....." wrote in message
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I lost today's recordings (because it recorded the hour before, not that
they actually got deleted)

There are some issues with the time change and existing reservations,


Why?

As I said, they've had six years to get it right.

And if they know that haven't got it right they should be honest and say
so. I think that I lost the recordings because they were set as "weekly".
If this is the case and I'd been prewarned that they weren't going to
work, I would have made then a once only for this week and gone back to
weekly after the change.


I suspect you just want to have a good moan, and I agree they should have
got the software to work better by now, but I am not aware that there is a
DVB-T DVR that is overall significantly better (though Topfield users swear
by theirs).

Until a really good one comes out, we will just have to work around the
problems.

Assuming "Recording's Start/End Time" is set to "On Time" (the default) most
recordings will adjust themselves automatically to the time using
Auto-Tracking.

Setting the repeat timer (as you have done in this case) disables
auto-tracking (for that programme), which can cause problems when the clocks
change, though weekly repeats that have already been working will continue
to work all right.

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  #12  
Old March 30th 09, 10:35 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
WCZ[_2_]
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On Friday I set my HDR to record the F1 (both progs, live and replay) and
it recorded both.


I set my Humax 9200T to record F1 on Friday too and it did the job
perfectly. The EPG said the race coverage started at 5am before the clock
change and thats what the entry in the recording schedule said. After the
clock change the Humax correctly started recording at 6am which was when the
BBC coverage actually started.

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  #13  
Old March 30th 09, 11:28 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Ivan[_2_]
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"Max Demian" wrote in message
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"tim....." wrote in message
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I lost today's recordings (because it recorded the hour before, not that
they actually got deleted)

There are some issues with the time change and existing reservations,


Why?

As I said, they've had six years to get it right.

And if they know that haven't got it right they should be honest and say
so. I think that I lost the recordings because they were set as "weekly".
If this is the case and I'd been prewarned that they weren't going to
work, I would have made then a once only for this week and gone back to
weekly after the change.


I suspect you just want to have a good moan, and I agree they should have
got the software to work better by now, but I am not aware that there is a
DVB-T DVR that is overall significantly better (though Topfield users
swear by theirs).

Until a really good one comes out, we will just have to work around the
problems.

Assuming "Recording's Start/End Time" is set to "On Time" (the default)
most recordings will adjust themselves automatically to the time using
Auto-Tracking.

Setting the repeat timer (as you have done in this case) disables
auto-tracking (for that programme), which can cause problems when the
clocks change, though weekly repeats that have already been working will
continue to work all right.



Eighteen months ago ago I bought a couple of cheap Digifusion single tuner
80gb PVRs for around £40.00 each, and apart from an occasional lockup they
have both given excellent service.

Saturday evening I set the one in my bedroom up to record the F1 race,
popped it into standby and on Sunday morning was pleased to find that that
it had moved the clock forward an hour and recorded the whole of the race
perfectly.

When I looked at my Humax 9200 PVR (which was set to standby) in the living
room at around 11am, I noticed that the clock was still an hour behind,
however after switching it out of standby the clock corrected itself within
a matter of seconds, so I wonder if this may have had an effect on the clock
updating itself when set to record and left in standby mode?






  #14  
Old March 30th 09, 11:47 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Ivan[_2_]
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"WCZ" wrote in message
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On Friday I set my HDR to record the F1 (both progs, live and replay) and
it recorded both.


I set my Humax 9200T to record F1 on Friday too and it did the job
perfectly. The EPG said the race coverage started at 5am before the clock
change and thats what the entry in the recording schedule said. After the
clock change the Humax correctly started recording at 6am which was when
the BBC coverage actually started.



How's the clock on your computer, did that reset itself OK?


  #15  
Old March 30th 09, 12:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Max Demian
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"Ivan" wrote in message
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"Max Demian" wrote in message
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"tim....." wrote in message
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I lost today's recordings (because it recorded the hour before, not that
they actually got deleted)

There are some issues with the time change and existing reservations,

Why?

As I said, they've had six years to get it right.

And if they know that haven't got it right they should be honest and say
so. I think that I lost the recordings because they were set as
"weekly". If this is the case and I'd been prewarned that they weren't
going to work, I would have made then a once only for this week and gone
back to weekly after the change.


I suspect you just want to have a good moan, and I agree they should have
got the software to work better by now, but I am not aware that there is
a DVB-T DVR that is overall significantly better (though Topfield users
swear by theirs).

Until a really good one comes out, we will just have to work around the
problems.

Assuming "Recording's Start/End Time" is set to "On Time" (the default)
most recordings will adjust themselves automatically to the time using
Auto-Tracking.

Setting the repeat timer (as you have done in this case) disables
auto-tracking (for that programme), which can cause problems when the
clocks change, though weekly repeats that have already been working will
continue to work all right.



Eighteen months ago ago I bought a couple of cheap Digifusion single tuner
80gb PVRs for around £40.00 each, and apart from an occasional lockup they
have both given excellent service.

Saturday evening I set the one in my bedroom up to record the F1 race,
popped it into standby and on Sunday morning was pleased to find that that
it had moved the clock forward an hour and recorded the whole of the race
perfectly.

When I looked at my Humax 9200 PVR (which was set to standby) in the
living room at around 11am, I noticed that the clock was still an hour
behind, however after switching it out of standby the clock corrected
itself within a matter of seconds, so I wonder if this may have had an
effect on the clock updating itself when set to record and left in standby
mode?


This didn't cause the OP's problem, as that was to do with setting weekly
repeats.

The Humax updates its clock whenever it comes out of standby, for example to
check whether the programme start time has changed (15 minutes before the
programme is due), though this would be too late for programmes starting in
the early hours after the clock goes forward by an hour (but OK when the
clocks go back in the autumn).

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Max Demian


  #16  
Old March 30th 09, 01:00 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Max Demian" wrote in message
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"tim....." wrote in message
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I lost today's recordings (because it recorded the hour before, not that
they actually got deleted)

There are some issues with the time change and existing reservations,


Why?

As I said, they've had six years to get it right.

And if they know that haven't got it right they should be honest and say
so. I think that I lost the recordings because they were set as "weekly".
If this is the case and I'd been prewarned that they weren't going to
work, I would have made then a once only for this week and gone back to
weekly after the change.


I suspect you just want to have a good moan,


Yes, and why not :-)

and I agree they should have got the software to work better by now, but I
am not aware that there is a DVB-T DVR that is overall significantly
better


I don't think that's an excuse. I repeat, this is 2008. You might have
expected such a basic error in a 1980s device, but the world has moved on.
IMHO (as a professional software engineer) this mistake is extremely poor
programming (and systems engineering).

(though Topfield users swear by theirs).

Until a really good one comes out, we will just have to work around the
problems.

Assuming "Recording's Start/End Time" is set to "On Time" (the default)
most recordings will adjust themselves automatically to the time using
Auto-Tracking.


What does "the time using Auto-Tracking" mean?

Setting the repeat timer (as you have done in this case) disables
auto-tracking (for that programme), which can cause problems when the
clocks change,


Why?

E.G. If the programmed is marked as starting at 9:00 then the simple
solution is to "wake up" and start recording at 9:00, as per the "real time
clock" (adjusted for BST). Writing the software so that it adjusts the
remembered start time when the clock change (which is what appears to
happen) is a nonsense why to design it to work (and I understand it's
something inherent in the spec that causes this, not something Hummy have
decided to do on their own). The one that I set to start at 9:00 on Sunday
is now in my schedual as starting at 8:00 next sunday.

though weekly repeats that have already been working will continue to work
all right.


I don't have any as I had to reset my box when Rowridge changed.

Um yes I do, I had one for Saturday. You are right the start time for this
prog in the schedule is correct. What nonsense!

(FWIW, This is the exact opposite of what my old Digihome did wrong - it
got it wrong if a repeat recording had started well before the clock change
and it rolled over to record the week aftre the time change wrongly, but it
go it right if you scheduled a repeat recording via the EPG once the day
with the time change was in the EPG.

tim


  #17  
Old March 30th 09, 01:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
WCZ[_2_]
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"Ivan" wrote in message
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"WCZ" wrote in message
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On Friday I set my HDR to record the F1 (both progs, live and replay)
and it recorded both.


I set my Humax 9200T to record F1 on Friday too and it did the job
perfectly. The EPG said the race coverage started at 5am before the
clock change and thats what the entry in the recording schedule said.
After the clock change the Humax correctly started recording at 6am which
was when the BBC coverage actually started.



How's the clock on your computer, did that reset itself OK?




Clock on my computer is fine so I'm not sure what your point is.

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Old March 30th 09, 02:47 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Ivan[_2_]
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"WCZ" wrote in message
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"Ivan" wrote in message
...

"WCZ" wrote in message
...


On Friday I set my HDR to record the F1 (both progs, live and replay)
and it recorded both.


I set my Humax 9200T to record F1 on Friday too and it did the job
perfectly. The EPG said the race coverage started at 5am before the
clock change and thats what the entry in the recording schedule said.
After the clock change the Humax correctly started recording at 6am
which was when the BBC coverage actually started.



How's the clock on your computer, did that reset itself OK?




Clock on my computer is fine so I'm not sure what your point is.




It was just that I posted in this thread at 10.28 am and noticed that
several minutes after my message had appeared your message popped up, but
was timed at 9.23 am so I wondered if maybe your O/S clock had failed to
update and you hadn't noticed, but if that's when you sent it then
presumably it was nothing more than your post taking its time to show up on
my news server.


  #19  
Old March 30th 09, 04:03 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Doctor D
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"tim....." wrote in message
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I lost all my recordings to today because your box (9150T) can't cope with
the clock change.

Why is it that people just can't get this right? It isn't rocket science!
It's a new mode FFS, you've had six years practice!

I bet I get the normal patronising response that I should reset to factory
defaults to fix it!


A response from Humax? I've been waiting four months for one of those!

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Old March 30th 09, 05:13 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Peter Duncanson
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:00:19 +0100, "tim....."
wrote:

I don't think that's an excuse. I repeat, this is 2008.


???

Your Humax box was an hour out. You are about three months out!
 




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