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'DAT45' type aerials springing up in Bedfordshire



 
 
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Old March 20th 09, 09:50 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default 'DAT45' type aerials springing up in Bedfordshire

In article ,
Marky P wrote:
On my travels around Bedford recently, I've noticed an influx of
'triple boom Televes type' aerials. Not only are these aerials
unneccessary in this area, they are also badly installed.


Same round here - and you can almost touch the CP mast. ;-) I can only
assume they are sold as some type of status symbol, as the cheapest
contract ones are usually ok. They same their money on the FM one, though,
just a halo.

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Old March 20th 09, 10:23 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default 'DAT45' type aerials springing up in Bedfordshire

In article , Bill Wright
scribeth thus

"J G Miller" wrote in message ...
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:13:17 +0000, Marky P wrote:

On my travels around Bedford recently, I've noticed an influx of 'triple
boom Televes type' aerials.


Are they genuine Televes DAT-45 with the black plastic support piece in
the approximate centre, or are they the copycat Nikkai Tri-Fold 43-Element
antenna with the black plastic support piece at the tip?

http://images.maplin.co.UK/full/a22hg.jpg


Ohhh, that's cheeky!

Bill



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Old March 20th 09, 02:50 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default 'DAT45' type aerials springing up in Bedfordshire

I recently came upon a shiny new DAT75 which was installed line-of-
sight to the local Ogbourne St. George relay.

Presumably the offending antenna-bodger 'needed' the extra gain of the
DAT75 to offset the loss he'd managed to engineer by installing the
stupid thing horizontally-polarised.
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Are you sure it wasn't looking past the relay to a distant HP DTTV signal?

In saying that, I keep meaning to photograph a DAT45 within 1 mile and with
perfect LOS to the 1kw Brecon relay station.

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Old March 20th 09, 03:00 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default 'DAT45' type aerials springing up in Bedfordshire


"J G Miller" wrote in message ...
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:13:17 +0000, Marky P wrote:

On my travels around Bedford recently, I've noticed an influx of 'triple
boom Televes type' aerials.


Are they genuine Televes DAT-45 with the black plastic support piece in
the approximate centre, or are they the copycat Nikkai Tri-Fold 43-Element
antenna with the black plastic support piece at the tip?

http://images.maplin.co.UK/full/a22hg.jpg


Labgear also market one http://tinyurl.com/cxfuyx which looks very similar
to that Nikkai one (dipole is different)
Lots springing up around here, although signal levels can be marginal and
sometimes a wideband (Lark Stoke & Ridge Hill) is required.

They look very odd when VP though!

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Old March 20th 09, 09:51 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default 'DAT45' type aerials springing up in Bedfordshire

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JohnW writes
On 17 Mar, 22:13, Marky P wrote:
On my travels around Bedford recently, I've noticed an influx of
'triple boom Televes type' aerials.


They've also reached St Neots. There is one near the station that must
be line of sight with Sandy Heath.


Also one on the back of the sports centre beside Ernulf School. 6 miles
at most from Sandy.

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Old March 21st 09, 12:14 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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They look very odd when VP though!


Does anyone know what it does to the response pattern when one of
these is VP?

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Old March 22nd 09, 08:53 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default 'DAT45' type aerials springing up in Bedfordshire

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:57:59 -0700 (PDT), JohnW
wrote:

On 17 Mar, 22:13, Marky P wrote:
On my travels around Bedford recently, I've noticed an influx of
'triple boom Televes type' aerials.


They've also reached St Neots. There is one near the station that must
be line of sight with Sandy Heath.

John


Wow! I'm just down the road in the tiny village of Duloe. I'll look
out for that one :-)

Marky P.
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Old March 22nd 09, 08:55 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Marky P[_2_]
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Default 'DAT45' type aerials springing up in Bedfordshire

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:03:35 +0100, J G Miller
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:13:17 +0000, Marky P wrote:

On my travels around Bedford recently, I've noticed an influx of 'triple
boom Televes type' aerials.


Are they genuine Televes DAT-45 with the black plastic support piece in
the approximate centre, or are they the copycat Nikkai Tri-Fold 43-Element
antenna with the black plastic support piece at the tip?

http://images.maplin.co.UK/full/a22hg.jpg


They are the latter. I knew they weren't proper DAT45's, hence the
term I used in my OP. :-)

Marky P.
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Old March 23rd 09, 03:07 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default 'DAT45' type aerials springing up in Bedfordshire

Tanuki wrote:
In , Marky P
said
On my travels around Bedford recently, I've noticed an influx of
'triple boom Televes type' aerials. Not only are these aerials
unneccessary in this area, they are also badly installed. One example
shown a thin 1" mast, 2"x"2 bracket, mounted part the way down the
gable end when the top was perfectly accessable, and excess coax cable
wrapped around the mounting bracket. The cable snaked down the front
wall of the house (clipped, but baggy between the clips) and into the
house with a big glob of unsightly white sealant. The other house I
saw was basically the same but no extra cable wrapped around the
mounting bracket. I will try and get pics if I can.


I recently came upon a shiny new DAT75 which was installed line-of-
sight to the local Ogbourne St. George relay.

Presumably the offending antenna-bodger 'needed' the extra gain of the
DAT75 to offset the loss he'd managed to engineer by installing the
stupid thing horizontally-polarised.


If you mount one in a VP manner, are you effectively pointing in three
different directions?!
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Old March 23rd 09, 05:29 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
J G Miller[_4_]
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Default 'DAT45' type aerials springing up in Bedfordshire

On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:55:16 +0000, Marky P wrote:
They are the latter. I knew they weren't proper DAT45's, hence the term
I used in my OP. :-)


Yes I did notice you had made the distinction, and I was trying to get
confirmation of what I thought you had seen.

But what will no doubt remain a mystery is, if the householders were
charged for the price of a genuine DAT-45, rather than the cheaper
copied style model price.

 




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