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Old March 15th 09, 02:21 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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Default Lets Dance for Comic Relief picture quality.

Agamemnon wrote:
e your system isn't all you think it is?

It's a shame Luxe don't show anything but hotel promos.


Filmed on U-matic from the look of them. How they can claim that is HD I
don't know. It's not even SD, and look at the stereo audio bitrate which
is only 128 kbps.


There are two versions of Luxe, one SD, one HD, both on the same t/p

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Old March 15th 09, 05:10 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Agamemnon" wrote in message
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The picture quality was totally appalling on SD. Even on the still shots
the presenters clothes were totally covered in huge blocks and when the
acts were dancing they looked like fuzzy shimmering insects thanks to
those dot matrix video walls flashing behind them.

This stuff is going at 4505kbps fixed bit rate and it's completely dire.
Using H.264 would make no difference to quality at that high a bit rate so
why are the BBC still using those flashing video walls behind performers
and presenters?

Was the HD quality any better and what bit rate is it going out at?

The 'dot matrix video walls' cause the same problems on HD broadcasts, even
with good bitrates - there's just too much changing detail for the encoders
to cope with.
I still have a recording of the 2008 Olympics closing party in London, and
it is without doubt the worst quality I have ever seen on BBC HD, thanks to
those video walls. The real question is which morons put these video walls
on the stage, knowing the problems they cause.


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Old March 15th 09, 06:07 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Agamemnon
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Default Lets Dance for Comic Relief picture quality.


"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Agamemnon wrote:
e your system isn't all you think it is?

It's a shame Luxe don't show anything but hotel promos.


Filmed on U-matic from the look of them. How they can claim that is HD I
don't know. It's not even SD, and look at the stereo audio bitrate which
is only 128 kbps.


There are two versions of Luxe, one SD, one HD, both on the same t/p


I know. The SD version looks like it's been sourced from U-matic so if it's
broadcasting the same content as the HD version how can they justify calling
it HD? The 128 kbps audio is on the HD stream too.


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Old March 15th 09, 09:10 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Tom E
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"Graham." wrote in message
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shots of the presenters without their clothes being covered in huge
blocks and everything looking fuzzy


Damn, I missed it!
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I wish I knew what language these guys were talkin'........its all way too
technical for me. I just select SD or HD and get what it
sends............BBC HD is so good and I wish I had done it before.


 




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