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Old January 30th 09, 04:51 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright
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"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message
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"David" wrote in message
SCART will disappear at around the same time SD disappears.



Well never then.


Of course it will at some point.

Are there any 405 line TVs left?


I'm not sure that it's a valid parallel. In those days TV standards were
dictated entirely by broadcast. There was no domestic recording and very
little CCTV. SD could continue side by side with HD for many years.

Bill


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Old January 30th 09, 09:33 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Jan 29, 10:19*pm, Roderick Stewart

Most of the programmes are crap anyway; would HDMI make them look any better?

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LOL, I'm glad it's not just me that thinks like that! Rubbish is still
rubbish, even with 10x as many pixels.

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Old January 30th 09, 12:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message
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"David" wrote in message
SCART will disappear at around the same time SD disappears.


Well never then.


Of course it will at some point.

Are there any 405 line TVs left?


I'm not sure that it's a valid parallel. In those days TV standards were
dictated entirely by broadcast. There was no domestic recording and very
little CCTV. SD could continue side by side with HD for many years.

Bill



I have been saying for years that technology seems to go backwards..
I was doing VoIP about 12 years ago, but now it's gone mainstream and the
software that's out there isnt as good as it was 12 years ago.
Video has done the same thing, we get HDTV and what happens, UTube explodes
and people enjoy watching .25SD content.. When i thought tech couldnt go in
reverse any more, it turns out people are watching UTube video's on their 2
1/2" mobile phones!..

So yes, SD will be here for Yonks and Yonks.


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Old January 30th 09, 02:59 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:48:10 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

I think SD will be here for a very long time.


Yes, SD and sub-standard SD will always be transmitted
because of bandwidth restraints and associated costs.

However, that does not mean that transfer of such video
signals will not be still possible via SCART, but will
most probably only be possible by an super secure DRM
infested HDCP encrusted Macrovision (tm) protected digital
link for which you have inserted your paid up subscription
chip card to prove that you have viewing rights.

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Old January 30th 09, 06:03 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"mr deo" wrote in message
om...


I have been saying for years that technology seems to go backwards..
I was doing VoIP about 12 years ago, but now it's gone mainstream and the
software that's out there isnt as good as it was 12 years ago.
Video has done the same thing, we get HDTV and what happens, UTube
explodes
and people enjoy watching .25SD content.. When i thought tech couldnt go
in
reverse any more, it turns out people are watching UTube video's on their
2
1/2" mobile phones!..

So yes, SD will be here for Yonks and Yonks.






except that HD material can now be viewed on youtube.
maybe not the same bitrate as broadcast tv, but still HD.



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Old January 30th 09, 07:24 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"The dog from that film you saw" wrote in
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"mr deo" wrote in message
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I have been saying for years that technology seems to go backwards..
I was doing VoIP about 12 years ago, but now it's gone mainstream and

the
software that's out there isnt as good as it was 12 years ago.
Video has done the same thing, we get HDTV and what happens, UTube
explodes
and people enjoy watching .25SD content.. When i thought tech couldnt go
in
reverse any more, it turns out people are watching UTube video's on

their
2
1/2" mobile phones!..

So yes, SD will be here for Yonks and Yonks.






except that HD material can now be viewed on youtube.
maybe not the same bitrate as broadcast tv, but still HD.



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Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....


Yea, I had a guy telling me a few weeks ago that VM should be giving us all
the HD stations, after all we can rent HD movies online and all that jazz..
But the online version of HD doesnt seem to be regulated, and the quality is
often less than SD broadcast ;( ..


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Old January 31st 09, 02:43 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"J G Miller" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:48:10 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

I think SD will be here for a very long time.


Yes, SD and sub-standard SD will always be transmitted
because of bandwidth restraints and associated costs.

However, that does not mean that transfer of such video
signals will not be still possible via SCART, but will
most probably only be possible by an super secure DRM
infested HDCP encrusted Macrovision (tm) protected digital
link for which you have inserted your paid up subscription
chip card to prove that you have viewing rights.


If you can see the content with your eyes, then there will be some way of
recording it. Even if it's by pointing an 18fps hand-cranked movie camera at
the screen.

(All this modern stuff is a right pain to use. A few weeks ago I came across
an old table-top17" TV. There were 5 channel buttons on the front, and when
I pressed one the channel changed instantly! What luxury!

At home, what with fiddling with an unresponsive remote and waiting for the
TV or box to change the channel in it's own time, I soon get fed up.)

--
Bartc

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Old January 31st 09, 11:38 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Bartc wrote:

If you can see the content with your eyes, then there will be some way
of recording it. Even if it's by pointing an 18fps hand-cranked movie
camera at the screen.


The assumption is that you will pay to get a full quality version, and
not be happy with the reduced picture quality you can get through an
unencrypted SD output or filming the screen.

Did someone say "youtube"?

Andy
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Old February 13th 09, 01:20 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Bartc wrote:

"J G Miller" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:48:10 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

I think SD will be here for a very long time.


Yes, SD and sub-standard SD will always be transmitted
because of bandwidth restraints and associated costs.

However, that does not mean that transfer of such video
signals will not be still possible via SCART, but will
most probably only be possible by an super secure DRM
infested HDCP encrusted Macrovision (tm) protected digital
link for which you have inserted your paid up subscription
chip card to prove that you have viewing rights.


If you can see the content with your eyes, then there will be some way
of recording it. Even if it's by pointing an 18fps hand-cranked movie
camera at the screen.

(All this modern stuff is a right pain to use. A few weeks ago I came
across an old table-top17" TV. There were 5 channel buttons on the
front, and when I pressed one the channel changed instantly! What luxury!

At home, what with fiddling with an unresponsive remote and waiting for
the TV or box to change the channel in it's own time, I soon get fed up.)


I remember when I was about 10 my Grandparents had a TV with proximity
type buttons (or very light touch anyway), you could run your finger up
and down the 3 channels and it would change picture as fast as you could
move your finger, oh the luxury!

--
Tony
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Old February 14th 09, 07:22 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Those touch buttons did seem to have a problem with my old Granny's
furniture polish though. When she had just done the polishing, they either
failed to work, or would switch to a preferred channel at no notice even if
you were in the kitchen.
Brian

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Bartc wrote:

"J G Miller" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:48:10 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

I think SD will be here for a very long time.

Yes, SD and sub-standard SD will always be transmitted
because of bandwidth restraints and associated costs.

However, that does not mean that transfer of such video
signals will not be still possible via SCART, but will
most probably only be possible by an super secure DRM
infested HDCP encrusted Macrovision (tm) protected digital
link for which you have inserted your paid up subscription
chip card to prove that you have viewing rights.


If you can see the content with your eyes, then there will be some way of
recording it. Even if it's by pointing an 18fps hand-cranked movie camera
at the screen.

(All this modern stuff is a right pain to use. A few weeks ago I came
across an old table-top17" TV. There were 5 channel buttons on the front,
and when I pressed one the channel changed instantly! What luxury!

At home, what with fiddling with an unresponsive remote and waiting for
the TV or box to change the channel in it's own time, I soon get fed up.)


I remember when I was about 10 my Grandparents had a TV with proximity
type buttons (or very light touch anyway), you could run your finger up
and down the 3 channels and it would change picture as fast as you could
move your finger, oh the luxury!

--
Tony



 




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