Freeview HD TVs?

Jimbo Slim wrote:
Hi Digie TV Techies

I am the proud owner a Panasonic TH-42PZ81B Full HD Plasma-TV with an
integrated built in freesat and freeview DVB tuner. It already gets both the
Freeview(SD only at present) & the HD transmissions from freesat really
well. I thought it would also get the HD from Freeview if and when that
starts up (with maybe a software update) or have I been misled ?

Probably yes, HD transmissions on satellite are part of the quite old DVB-S
format, HD broadcasts on Freeview will be part of the brand new DVB-T2 format.
Existing SD broadcasts on Freeview are DVB-T1, which is not 'forwardly
compatible' with T2. T2 was only ratified in October 2008, I've not heard of
any receivers in the consumer markets yet.


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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:39:04 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

HD transmissions on satellite are part of the quite old DVB-S format

You appear to have forgotten about the HD transmissions from satellite
in DVB-s2 format.

"Jimbo Slim" wrote in message
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Hi Digie TV Techies

I am the proud owner a Panasonic TH-42PZ81B Full HD Plasma-TV with an
integrated built in freesat and freeview DVB tuner. It already gets both
the Freeview(SD only at present) & the HD transmissions from freesat
really well. I thought it would also get the HD from Freeview if and when
that starts up (with maybe a software update) or have I been misled ?



how can it if it doesnt contain the freeview hd tuner?



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I am the proud owner a Panasonic TH-42PZ81B Full HD Plasma-TV with an
integrated built in freesat and freeview DVB tuner. It already gets both
the Freeview(SD only at present) & the HD transmissions from freesat
really well. I thought it would also get the HD from Freeview if and when
that starts up (with maybe a software update) or have I been misled ?

how can it if it doesnt contain the freeview hd tuner?

Surely the tuner in an HD set will be the same as that in any other
Freeview TV. It's the decoding of the digital signal that's different.

But I imagine that TVs use hardware decoders, in which case a firmware
update would not help.

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"J G Miller" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:39:04 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

HD transmissions on satellite are part of the quite old DVB-S format

You appear to have forgotten about the HD transmissions from satellite
in DVB-s2 format.

I dont think any are done in S2 format, but If I recall correctly all
FreeSat receivers must be S2 compliant.

"Jimbo Slim" wrote in message
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Hi Digie TV Techies

I am the proud owner a Panasonic TH-42PZ81B Full HD Plasma-TV with an
integrated built in freesat and freeview DVB tuner. It already gets both
the
Freeview(SD only at present) & the HD transmissions from freesat really
well. I thought it would also get the HD from Freeview if and when that
starts up (with maybe a software update) or have I been misled ?

Regards Jimbo


I would guess you have been misled.
The h.264 decoders are in the TV, but there's no receiver that can take in
the DVB-T2 signal. I guess it is possible that the system could be robust
enough to receive this type of signal, but I rekon it's doubtful. Try
sending Panny service an email and ask them.

Jimbo Slim wrote:
Hi Digie TV Techies

I am the proud owner a Panasonic TH-42PZ81B Full HD Plasma-TV with an
integrated built in freesat and freeview DVB tuner. It already gets
both the Freeview(SD only at present) & the HD transmissions from
freesat really well. I thought it would also get the HD from Freeview
if and when that starts up (with maybe a software update) or have I
been misled ?
Regards Jimbo

You've misunderstood. Probably quite easy for a top poster.
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J G Miller wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:39:04 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

HD transmissions on satellite are part of the quite old DVB-S format

You appear to have forgotten about the HD transmissions from satellite
in DVB-s2 format.

They can't be, BBC HD shares the same t/p as SD BBC 1 Cambs and Channel Is.

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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J G Miller wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:39:04 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

HD transmissions on satellite are part of the quite old DVB-S format

You appear to have forgotten about the HD transmissions from satellite
in DVB-s2 format.

They can't be, BBC HD shares the same t/p as SD BBC 1 Cambs and Channel
Is.

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There are 2 BBC HD feeds, odd that (a mirror of BBC HD).
I think that the talk said they would move to S2 but that it wouldnt
broadcast in S2 early on.. I dont know why they would do such a thing
because it means FreeSat mfgr's will just put in basic crappy S2 support and
when it's needed the boxes might not be up to par ;( ..

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:42:04 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

J G Miller wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:39:04 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

HD transmissions on satellite are part of the quite old DVB-S format

You appear to have forgotten about the HD transmissions from satellite
in DVB-s2 format.

They can't be, BBC HD shares the same t/p as SD BBC 1 Cambs and Channel
Is.

I did not say that BBC HD was in DVB-s2 format.

If you consult http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html, you will see
that some B$kyB services are in DVB-s2 MPEG-4 (HD).

If you look at Astra at 23,5 East you will see Canaal Digital and Kabel
Deutschland use DVB-s2, if you look at Astra 19,2 East, you will see
Premier and CanalSat France use DVB-s2, if you look at Astra 16 East you
will see DigitalAlb use DVB-s2 etc etc.

So as I stated your statement

"HD transmissions on satellite are part of the quite old
DVB-S format"

does apply to BBC and ITV HD transmissions but not to *all*

"HD transmissions on satellite"

The point is that there is on going transition from DVB-s to DVB-s2,
just as there will be from DVB-t to DVB-t2.