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Old December 31st 08, 09:04 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mike O'Sullivan
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Bill Ridgeway wrote:

There is a piece of technology called Programme Delivery Control (PDC)
which, with appropriate recorders, start and stop recording on transmission
of the programme. This is available on BBC1, BBC2 (and others?) and Channel
5 but not ITV1 or Channel 4 (This is not definitive!).


Only works on analogue transmissions doesn't it?

I found it to be unreliable and gave up using it.
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Old December 31st 08, 09:36 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Roderick Stewart[_2_]
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Default BBC News report: extra second of time

In article , Johnny B Good
wrote:
With the way the broadcasters are behaving right now and for the
forseeable future, there's definitely a market for an intelligent "PVR"


Agreed, but in the meantime, a stupid PVR with an intelligent user is
good enough.

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  #33  
Old December 31st 08, 10:36 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , Jay [email protected]
ospam.org scribeth thus

"Woody" wrote in message
...
"Mike O'Sullivan" wrote in message
...
Jay wrote:
I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line
with
global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the
year
tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its
own
ship in order when it comes to timing?. On Christmas Day 2008 the
'BBC One'
schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost
every
programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes.
Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal
to
time programmes these days!

Absolutely agree. There is nothing that infuriates me more about the
BBC.




Actually it is nothing to do with the BBC.


Nobody said it was anything to do with the BBC. I just said that the BBC
had reported the story on BBC News. Who said anything about it being
anything to do with the BBC?

What is the BBC's fault is the lack of time keeping on its TV channels.




Perhaps they ought to alter the rotational speed of old mutter earth;!..
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  #34  
Old December 31st 08, 10:41 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default BBC News report: extra second of time

The message en.co.uk
from Roderick Stewart
contains these words:

In article , Johnny B Good
wrote:
With the way the broadcasters are behaving right now and for the
forseeable future, there's definitely a market for an intelligent "PVR"


Agreed, but in the meantime, a stupid PVR with an intelligent user is
good enough.


I agree, but us 'intelligent users' are rather outnumbered by those who
would expect the technology to do the 'Donkeywork' for them. Me, I'm
hoping someone with even more acumen would fulfil their hopes and
dreams. ;-)

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Old December 31st 08, 10:48 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Light of Aria wrote:

One imagines these sorts as the SS/Gestapo of the BBC regime, going
around in distinctive black uniforms with peaked caps and red BBC
swastika logos on their arms.

Your loyalty to the BBC Reich is in doubt: Your name vil go on ze
list.


"Name?"

"Don't tell him Pike!"

(kim)


  #36  
Old December 31st 08, 10:55 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Brian W wrote:
"Jay" wrote in message
...
I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line
with global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end
of the year tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot
seem to get its own ship in order when it comes to timing?. On
Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One'
schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost
every programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6
minutes. Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at
their disposal to time programmes these days!

Strange. I managed to record 'Doctor Who' on my PC (with a manual
tuner setting - no EPG auto-updating) and didn't miss the end. I
added two minutes of padding and this was more than enough.


"Doctor Who: Confidential" started on BBC3 before "Doctor Who" had finished
on BBC1. If you had used the digital programme guide to set a timer you
would have missed the end of Doctor Who.

(kim)


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Old January 1st 09, 01:26 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Max Demian
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Default BBC News report: extra second of time

"Mike O'Sullivan" wrote in message
...
Bill Ridgeway wrote:
There is a piece of technology called Programme Delivery Control (PDC)
which, with appropriate recorders, start and stop recording on
transmission of the programme. This is available on BBC1, BBC2 (and
others?) and Channel 5 but not ITV1 or Channel 4 (This is not
definitive!).


Only works on analogue transmissions doesn't it?


There's an equivalent available on Freeview as part of the Freeview+
recorder spec (e.g. Humax PVR-9200T with up to date software). It works
reasonably well, though it misses out the first and/or last 30 seconds or so
of programmes sometimes. I doesn't seem to miss programmes altogether like
PDC (mainly BBC).


  #38  
Old January 1st 09, 01:39 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Max Demian
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"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:20:48 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Jay"
saying something like:

I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line with
global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the
year
tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its own
ship in order when it comes to timing?.


I must admit my ears perked up when I heard the Sky News bimbo announce
that "... the Earth has been turning slower than usual this year."

Followed at this end by gales of laughter.


Yes! As the Wikipedia article says:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second

the rotation of Earth slows down continually, though at a slightly
variable rate.

Whether or not 2008 was a particularly slow (or less slow) year that is
not
the reason for the leap second.


The BBC have got it rather wrong here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7797818.stm by muddling solar and
sidereal days up:

"For thousands of years the definition of a day was easy enough: the length
of time it takes for a full rotation of the Earth around its axis.

"Since ancient times, clocks of various descriptions have helped us keep
track.

"But recently, clocks have become so accurate that it has emerged that the
Earth's rotation can take slightly longer or shorter than 24 hours."

Well the time taken for a full rotation of the earth on its axis is about 23
hours 56 minutes, never 24 hours.

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Old January 1st 09, 05:03 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Ian Jackson wrote:
For those bringing in the New Year when watching digital TV or radio,
the magic stroke of midnight will already be around a second too late.
Should they start Ould Lang Syne on the 6th pip of the time signal?
This, of course, is normally the last, long pip. However, on this
occasion, it will be short, being the penultimate of 7 pips.


Which radio station broadcasts the pips and Old Lang Syne at the
beginning of a new year?
  #40  
Old January 1st 09, 07:02 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , tony sayer
writes

Perhaps they ought to alter the rotational speed of old mutter earth;!..


"On the third stroke - JUMP"

Well it works for 1Bn Chinese! ;-)
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A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
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