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Old October 27th 08, 02:55 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
R. Mark Clayton
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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
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R. Mark Clayton wrote:

AFAAK Videoguard has never been successfully hacked, although there are
some card sharing devices, and possibly CAM emulators.


I assume the box actually does the decrypting, what is it that is stored
on the Sky card that permits it.

Out of principle I don't want to use a Sky HD box,


hear hear!

all I want is to receive the free to view HD channels and still receive
the Sky channels I pay for.

I suppose if I want to run a freesat box and keep my Sky box I need a
multi LNB on my dish.


You could buy a FTA box with loop through or a priority switch.


Geoff Lane



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Old November 3rd 08, 08:01 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Geoff Lane
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R. Mark Clayton wrote:

Out of principle I don't want to use a Sky HD box,


hear hear!

all I want is to receive the free to view HD channels and still receive
the Sky channels I pay for.

I suppose if I want to run a freesat box and keep my Sky box I need a
multi LNB on my dish.


You could buy a FTA box with loop through or a priority switch.


I think the Maplin's Fortek model has a LNB pass through.

Geoff Lane
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Old November 4th 08, 08:29 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Geoff Lane wrote:

R. Mark Clayton wrote:

Out of principle I don't want to use a Sky HD box,


hear hear!

all I want is to receive the free to view HD channels and still receive
the Sky channels I pay for.

I suppose if I want to run a freesat box and keep my Sky box I need a
multi LNB on my dish.


You could buy a FTA box with loop through or a priority switch.


I think the Maplin's Fortek model has a LNB pass through.


Only one quarter of the channels will be available to the secondary
decoder box due to the way that the LNB will have been mode-switched by
the decoder box that has control of the LNB.

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Old November 4th 08, 07:27 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Geoff Lane
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Dave Farrance wrote:

I think the Maplin's Fortek model has a LNB pass through.


Only one quarter of the channels will be available to the secondary
decoder box due to the way that the LNB will have been mode-switched by
the decoder box that has control of the LNB.


How does that work then, which quarter will be available.

Geoff Lane


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Old November 4th 08, 11:26 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gregory [UK]
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"Dave Farrance" wrote in message
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Only one quarter of the channels will be available to the secondary
decoder box due to the way that the LNB will have been mode-switched by
the decoder box that has control of the LNB.


Half surely.
Those that have the same polarization.

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Old November 4th 08, 11:40 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gregory [UK]
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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
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I think the Maplin's Fortek model has a LNB pass through.


Only one quarter of the channels will be available to the secondary
decoder box due to the way that the LNB will have been mode-switched by
the decoder box that has control of the LNB.


How does that work then, which quarter will be available.


I think it's half rather than a quarter. Though this is what I learnt back
when analogue was the norm for satellite TV. Massive oversimplification
follows: A normal LNB on a normal dish designed to connect to a single
receiver box is switched by the receiver box into two different modes
called, horizontal polarization (H) and vertical polarization (V). Some
channels are transmitted with H some with V and the dish needs to be set to
match the transmission. This is used to reduce interference between multiple
signals coming from the satellite on nearby frequencies.

Maybe it's all different for digital.
If I'm wrong PLEASE go ahead and correct me.

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Old November 5th 08, 12:19 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul Ratcliffe
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:40:13 -0000, Brian Gregory [UK] wrote:

How does that work then, which quarter will be available.


I think it's half rather than a quarter.


You think wrong then.

This is used to reduce interference between multiple
signals coming from the satellite on nearby frequencies.


No, it's so you can use the frequencies twice.

If I'm wrong PLEASE go ahead and correct me.


High band and low band is the other set of options. Combine these with H
and V and you get 4 possibilities.
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Old November 5th 08, 11:17 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Brian Gregory [UK] wrote:
"Dave Farrance" wrote in message
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Only one quarter of the channels will be available to the secondary
decoder box due to the way that the LNB will have been mode-switched by
the decoder box that has control of the LNB.


Half surely.
Those that have the same polarization.


Nope, you forgot about high and low band. There's four possible modes
for an LNB to be in - High-Horiz, Low-Horiz, High-Vert, Low-Vert.

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Old November 8th 08, 04:40 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Geoff Lane
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Dave Farrance wrote:

You could buy a FTA box with loop through or a priority switch.

I think the Maplin's Fortek model has a LNB pass through.


Only one quarter of the channels will be available to the secondary
decoder box due to the way that the LNB will have been mode-switched by
the decoder box that has control of the LNB.


I assume there must be a switch of some description then that allows the
satellite signal to be rerouted rather than passed through.

The system I am considering, any second satellite box would sit
alongside my old sky box, both feeding the same TV but the newer box for
receiving HD broadcasts.

Geoff Lane


 




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