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Old May 31st 08, 05:36 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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Default Freeview coverage post-switchover

sheila wrote:

From http://www.freeview.co.uk/availability
Just checked again and I can get 4, but only on +1

It says:

The good news is that you should be able to receive all the Freeview
channels now, but unfortunately you'll lose these channels for a short
period of time while your region switches to digital. You should be
able to receive the most popular Freeview channels again after
switchover.


If the checker says you can get the main Freeview channels now, and you can't,
it might be your aerial installation is below par, although postcode checkers
should not be taken as 'gospel', whatever result they give.

It also says
"Please note that Channel Five will be included in the channel line-up
after switchover."

So will I get 5?


Yes, it should be on one of the main PSB muxes, though Ofcom have yet to
decide where, in light of their late decision to shoehorn in HD services.

This is from the Preseli transmitter.


Try the checker he-

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/



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Old June 1st 08, 04:25 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Davy[_2_]
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Mark Carver wrote in
:

Davy wrote:
Count yourself lucky; when I put my post code into

the
page I get the reply:

"Unfortunately, you won't be able to receive any

Freeview
channels now, or after your region has switched to

digital
TV."

Yet I live in Wiltshire (not the Welsh or Scottish
mountains)

David at BA12 6DG house name Reeves Acre


You will according to this:-

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/postcodechecker/main/trade/

BA12+6DG/1/0


Mark, thanks for that link - paints a much rosier
picture. Too rosy; my Rowridge freeview signal is often
lost - even with a very good aerial.
Strange thing though; the page shows all my local
transmitters Rowridge, Stockland Hill and Mendip
degrading from 'meets the planning standard' to marginal
for Mux1/BBC A after 2012. I thought the freeview signal
was supposed to improve after changeover?
Davy
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Old June 2nd 08, 02:37 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Slitheen[_5_]
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Default Freeview coverage post-switchover

wrote in message
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On 29 Maj, 20:24, "Slitheen"
wrote:
However, they took that on the
chin thinking it's not that long to the 'great' switch-over which
promised
would bring them a full digital service.

Don't worry, be happy .

However, when I put in the same postcode, it now says they can get no
channels at all at present (wrong), and after the switch-over they'd be
able
to receive "the most popular channels"...this is what they say those are
(notice no Channel 4, Channel 5 and no Film 4...which they really
like...no
Sky channels or Virgin 1...etc
etc):http://www.freeview.co.uk/availabili...erage/LL28+5YF...


If you look at the freeveiw page to the right select the
choice of Conway and the result page list the channels you
will be able to receive post DSO (expected late 2009).
(Bootom of page)
But the page also has the text:
"Please note that Channel Five will be included
in the channel line-up after switchover."
C4 and S4C will be included, too.
From early 2010 3 new HD channels will start
BBC-HD plus likely ITV-HD and C4-HD and they
will be transmitted from Conway, too.
The HD channels will require a new STB,
not yet on the market.

So what happened to all the talk of getting the full digital service
when
analogue switched off?

About 90% will get the all Freeview channels, but only the
PSB channels will be broadcast from the small relay
transmitters - like Conway. There are over 1000 such small
transmitters and they raise the coverage to about 98.5%.
This is expensive and the 3 COM MUXes ( A, C and D)
will not pay the cost. Blame them, not Freeveiw.
Your parents license is very much the reason
Conway will continue to broadcast after DSO.

But your parents are in a much better situation
as they can already receive the digital transmissions
from Llanddona. The present analog transmission from
Conway on channel 50 and 46 (2 kW @ 3 km) will block
the BBC MUX-1 and the COM MUX-D, But you should
be able to receive MUX-B (BBC-4), MUX-2 (ITV) MUX-A
(Five) and MUX-C (Sky).
http://www.dtg.org.uk/retailer/dtt_channels.html

The Llanddona MUXes currently transmits with 1 kW @ 25 km
and after DSO they will transmit with 20 kW for the 3 PSB
MUXes and 10 kW for the 3 COM MUXes ( now A,C and D)
That is 20 and 10 times stronger signals.
Llanddona will change channels and you will have to do
a rescan at DSO.
The aerial is where I think you should focus just now.
http://www.wolfbane.com/cgi-bin/tvd....T=5&OS=LL285YF
recommends "Amplified extra hi-gain" in group C/D horizontal,
but as you already know - these are 'statistical' predictions
that may or may not be 100% accurate. You seems to
have better coverage.
Conway is aerial group B and transmits vertically .
Start by making a drawing of the present installation and
make a note of make and type of all components.
On your STB's infopage you should be able to
see the channel number and the signal quality
for each of the 4 MUXes.
Before you buy or change anything - write here with
the results. You may even upload a picture somewhere
and post a link here.



Thanks for the reply, and to everyone else. Unfortunately, I won't be able
to post accurate details of the set-up, as I'm not there and rarely go. The
last time I visited the place was when I last went to try and get them
sorted out with at least some of the digital channels. It's a large wideband
aerial with a masthead booster that I fitted for them, but that's all I
know. I'm not that up on all the gear and aerial groups, as the regulars to
this group seem to be, so that was why I used a wideband aerial.


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Old June 2nd 08, 08:02 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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Default Freeview coverage post-switchover

Davy wrote:

Mark, thanks for that link - paints a much rosier
picture. Too rosy; my Rowridge freeview signal is often
lost - even with a very good aerial.
Strange thing though; the page shows all my local
transmitters Rowridge, Stockland Hill and Mendip
degrading from 'meets the planning standard' to marginal
for Mux1/BBC A after 2012. I thought the freeview signal
was supposed to improve after changeover?


It will, however those degraded results post 2013, might be trying
represent the situation after the French have switched ?

That's the reason why Rowridge will transmit an additional vertically
polarised component.
 




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