Digital tuners in all TVs sold

In article ,
Peter Gillett wrote:
I recently bought a 21" flatscreen Analog TV for the bedroom for GBP 80
and a Freeview box to go with it for GBP30 all from Sainsburys. They had
the freeview version of the same TV for GBP130. I of course bought the
separates setup, and it works well.

So to save 20 quid you had two boxes rather than one and two remote
controls? Was it worth it?

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In article ,
Light of Aria wrote:
One quick and easy way would be to require each new TV on sale to have
a stick on label stating if it *doesn't* have a FreeView tuner.


They already have labels indicating the number of SCART ports and HDMI
ports.

No they don't. They should have on the box, but that's not always on
display. And in any case it's easy enough to check for SCARTS etc even
with the set not powered.

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In article ,
David wrote:
I thought Scotland was the country I paid my English taxes for them to
have free university education.

They're just getting back a fraction of their oil revenue Thatcher wasted.

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"Peter Gillett" wrote in message
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In article ,
Graham. wrote:

"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
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The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must
include
a digital tuner.

http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over
half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within
their working life.

Ah well I bough some Tescos butter ready bread and coffee ready milk
and
left via a customer ready till, sorry I imagined the last one.

Because in this case, the principle of caveat emptor applies
rather than that of nanny state.

I bought a very cheap DVDR in Tesco, and yes it does
have an analogue tuner. It also has a DV input and is
an ideal compliment to my camcorder.

Are you suggesting that sale of this machine should be banned
in favour of a much more expensive one with a digital tuner,
or no tuner at all. (If such a machine even exists for the domestic
market)

Perhaps there is a case for clear labelling of equipment with
analogue only tuners, but that's as far as it should go.

I recently bought a 21" flatscreen Analog TV for the bedroom for GBP 80
and
a Freeview box to go with it for GBP30 all from Sainsburys. They had the
freeview version of the same TV for GBP130.
I of course bought the separates setup, and it works well.

And bare in mind that you could buy 3 or 4 set-top boxes for what
it would cost to have the internal tuner of an out-of-warranty IDTV set
repaired.

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In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
If you bought a car and ran out of road one dark night it wouldn't be
the car dealer's fault would it?

If you bought a petrol car when it was known that supplies of petrol were
to be stopped in a year or so and then only diesel for sale you might be a
tad muffed. Of course everyone understands the difference between petrol
and diesel so it couldn't happen. After all no one ever puts petrol in a
diesel car...

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
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So it is not at all unreasonable for a customer to walk into a shop, buy
a "Television" note the 'tele' part it means transmission so an item
advertised as a television is claiming to receive broadcasts, and expect
it to perform for an acceptable period.

Which for an electronics item of this type means in excess of 10 years.
In the UK analog only TVs fill not be TELEvisions after at most 5 years.


The TV set would still be capable of receiving broadcasts even if the
broadcasts had stopped for ever. After all, if Emley Moor was off the air
due to a fault I would have a claim again the firm who sold me my telly
would I?

Aerial contractors have problems with this. We are responsible for the
aerial performing properly but we can't be blamed if a big building goes
up and cuts the signal off.

If you bought a car and ran out of road one dark night it wouldn't be the
car dealer's fault would it?

Bill

How come there is an expectation that DTT is integrated into
the receiver, but no such expectation exists for the other two UK popular
platforms.
Actually LG did make a set with an integrated SKY Digibox, (a modified
Pace box), but that's rather the exception that proves the rule.

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"Graham" wrote in message
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And bare in mind

Lots of people are bare in my mind.

Bill

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
If you bought a car and ran out of road one dark night it wouldn't be
the car dealer's fault would it?

If you bought a petrol car when it was known that supplies of petrol were
to be stopped in a year or so and then only diesel for sale you might be a
tad muffed. Of course everyone understands the difference between petrol
and diesel so it couldn't happen. After all no one ever puts petrol in a
diesel car...

But if you ask the kids to fill the water tank on your motorhome you will
probably have to spend the weekend dismounting your diesel tank and draining
the water out of it.

Bill

"Graham" wrote in message
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How come there is an expectation that DTT is integrated into
the receiver, but no such expectation exists for the other two UK popular
platforms.


My expectation is that a 'Television' sold tday shall perform its
function without adaptors from the day of purchase for the rest of its
functioning life.

This would be met by any of the platforms you mention. It is not met by an
analog only set.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

And in any case it's easy enough to check for SCARTS etc even
with the set not powered.


I wonder.
Most times you can't see the rear of the set.
Move it and listen for the Alarms going off and look for security staff come
running.

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David

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