So THAT's what the locked half of the HD is for on a Sky + box - VOD

Adrian C wrote:
Ed wrote:
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....rint&ID=945710

...in 2007, Sky will introduce a new enhancement giving Sky+ customers
the chance to enjoy a selection of the week's best programmes
on-demand. The service will be available to more than one million Sky+
and Sky HD customers from launch, making use of additional recording
capacity on the hard drive of more recent boxes.


When TiVo launched here, the BBC tried a similar type of thing ...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/05/24/bbc_hijacks_tivo_recorders/

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Adrian C

So I presume Sky will force Sky programmes onto your Sky+ box. Imagine
having the whole series of 'cirque de celebrite' forced upon you?!?!

Arrggggghhh

ABC wrote:
"Mike Redrobe" wrote in message
Still 5 years behind Tivo then...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/05...ivo_recorders/

I wonder if it will go down any better when sky do it.

But with the TiVo, the space occupied by the downloaded programme was part
of the viewers hdd space. Sky's version will use the portion of the hdd
which isn't currently used by viewers.

That's exactly what TiVo did too. There's a very small portion of the
TiVo HDD reserved for that purpose. A lot of the media flap about that
whole "Dossa and Joe" thing was actually completely wrong; it didn't
take any user usable space on the HDD and it only recorded it if the
TiVo was idle (i.e. not scheduled to record anything during the length
of the programme, and also either in standby or not having had a user
input for 30 minutes - i.e. when it would have been available to record
suggestions anyway) so it didn't hijack the TiVo at all. The only users
who would have noticed any different behaviour were those with
suggestions turned off.

The real problems were a) it wasn't used on UK TiVos from day 1, so
users weren't expecting it and b) the programme chosen was absolutely dire.

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Angus G Rae Science & Engineering Support Team
Computing Services
University of Edinburgh
The above opinions are mine, and Edinburgh University can't have them

Heracles Pollux wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message
...
"Ed" wrote in message
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http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....rint&ID=945710

...in 2007, Sky will introduce a new enhancement giving Sky+ customers
the chance to enjoy a selection of the week's best programmes
on-demand. The service will be available to more than one million Sky+
and Sky HD customers from launch, making use of additional recording
capacity on the hard drive of more recent boxes.

If it has to record "a selection of the week's best programmes"[1] on the
HD first, it's not "on-demand".

[1] IOW, dross. True on-demand allows the customer to choose what he
wants, including rare, unpopular stuff.

--
Max Demian



Interesting, and will merely browsing one minute of these programmes be
counted as share / reach?

Do bears **** in the woods. ;-)

Also it says it will be 'available' to 'more than 1 million' Sky+
viewers. As there are over 2 million active Sky+ boxes, why only half?

Heracles Pollux wrote:

At some point some of the Public Relations / Stockholm syndrome suffers from
the BBC / BSKYB will enter this thread telling everyone how wrong they are
to want to control what their Video Recorder copies.

What a ridiculous idea of suggesting the consumers might want to choose how
to spend their time and money, and in what format they consume products, and
whether said products are mutilated with further logos, adverts, Trojan
software, centralised mono-directional voice-overs.

In the case of the BBC, you licence fee payers should be grateful that aunty
forces your PVR to record Tosser and Joe and that since the remote control
was invented, by Auntie, you are in fact no longer required to get down on
your knees to programme the video.


Got to say a lot of people are looking forward to your day in court ...
have you chosen a nice suit to wear ???

Fruitcake...

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Adrian C

"Ed" wrote in message
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Heracles Pollux wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message
...
"Ed" wrote in message
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http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....rint&ID=945710

...in 2007, Sky will introduce a new enhancement giving Sky+ customers
the chance to enjoy a selection of the week's best programmes
on-demand. The service will be available to more than one million Sky+
and Sky HD customers from launch, making use of additional recording
capacity on the hard drive of more recent boxes.

If it has to record "a selection of the week's best programmes"[1] on
the
HD first, it's not "on-demand".

[1] IOW, dross. True on-demand allows the customer to choose what he
wants, including rare, unpopular stuff.

--
Max Demian



Interesting, and will merely browsing one minute of these programmes be
counted as share / reach?

Do bears **** in the woods. ;-)

Also it says it will be 'available' to 'more than 1 million' Sky+
viewers. As there are over 2 million active Sky+ boxes, why only half?


Likely only half will pay the extra £10 a month (speculation, but is
anything ever free from sky?).

"Adrian C" wrote in message
...


Got to say a lot of people are looking forward to your day in court ...
have you chosen a nice suit to wear ???

Fruitcake...

--
Adrian C




The more public my trial, the bigger the platform you grant me to encourage
every dis-satisfied citizen to take the same action against the BBC and
condone the perversion and wastage of the BBC.


Think it through: Would you wish to give me a public platform to castigate
the BBC or do you think they would prefer a trial in obscurity?


Now think through what my legal tactics will be:

Ignore / respond by post / deal / counter-strike / ambush.


Looks like you're not holding such a good hand of cards now.



Come on, tell us what you are trying to achieve?

"Ed" wrote in message
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Heracles Pollux wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message
...
"Ed" wrote in message
oups.com
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....rint&ID=945710

...in 2007, Sky will introduce a new enhancement giving Sky+ customers
the chance to enjoy a selection of the week's best programmes
on-demand. The service will be available to more than one million Sky+
and Sky HD customers from launch, making use of additional recording
capacity on the hard drive of more recent boxes.

If it has to record "a selection of the week's best programmes"[1] on
the
HD first, it's not "on-demand".

[1] IOW, dross. True on-demand allows the customer to choose what he
wants, including rare, unpopular stuff.

--
Max Demian



Interesting, and will merely browsing one minute of these programmes be
counted as share / reach?

Do bears **** in the woods. ;-)

Also it says it will be 'available' to 'more than 1 million' Sky+
viewers. As there are over 2 million active Sky+ boxes, why only half?

Presumably the other half have the type of boxes that allow access to the
whole drive.

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:55:00 +0000, Angus Rae
wrote:

The real problems were a) it wasn't used on UK TiVos from day 1, so
users weren't expecting it and b) the programme chosen was absolutely dire.

And it just stuck itself on the front screen, and could not be
deleted. Which for a post-watershed programme is perhaps not what you
want your kids looking at.
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On 12 Jan 2007 08:24:34 -0800, "Ed" wrote:

Also it says it will be 'available' to 'more than 1 million' Sky+
viewers. As there are over 2 million active Sky+ boxes, why only half?

Presumably the other half have the older Sky+ boxes that don't have a
big enough disc to reserve any space on.

--

"Mike Henry" wrote in message
...
In , "ABC"
wrote:

But with the TiVo, the space occupied by the downloaded programme was part
of the viewers hdd space.

That's untrue. It was reserved space.

Sky's version will use the portion of the hdd
which isn't currently used by viewers.

Sky's version reserves half of the disc! TiVo's version reserves 1/40th
of the disc.


Topfield's 160GB / 250GB TF5800PVR reserves 0% space.