OT - All DAB receivers to be obsolete - DAB is dead

james wrote:

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Words don't harm eh? You said the exact opposite two posts earlier in
the thread. Standing on your head to justify your use of the language of
hate.

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Dave Farrance

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Mike Henry wrote:
In , "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

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Edster wrote:
What would *you* like to view on TV?

I would like to watch TV shows without being constantly reminded
what I am trying to watch and being bombarded with on screen
adverts for other shows.

You'll not buy any DVDs, then?

Not everything is available on DVD. In fact most of it probably never
will be.

So what do you watch that doesn't have adverts or trails?

"Adverts or trails" were not mentioned, please don't move the goalposts.

Sorry. You said - above - 'on screen adverts for other shows'. Not being
clear what that means I assumed you meant trails.

Being constantly reminded what one is trying to watch - ie a permanent
onscreen logo - and being bombarded with onscreen adverts for other
programmes is what was mentioned.

I understand DOGS but not what you mean 'by on screen adverts'.

"Adverts or trails" are fine, as long as they are between the programmes.

Ah - trailing the next prog or ep over the credits? Most have gone to make
a drink by then.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Alan White wrote:

Comparing R4 Freeview with R4 satellite, there is no difference in
background noise or its level.

Unfortunately, we can't receive FM here so I can't take the comparison
any further.

Where is your DTT coming from Alan, I'm surprised if you can get that,
that nothing is receivable for FM radio ?

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Sorry. You said - above - 'on screen adverts for other shows'. Not being
clear what that means I assumed you meant trails.

Text or icons appearing alongside the station logo during other shows
saying things like (just as a random one from recently) "Cirque de
Celebrite, Sat 8PM" which seemed to appear under the "Sky One" DOG all
the damn time.

At least it's just text on Sky One - other channels (SciFi for one) pop
up large logos that often obscure the programme underneath quite badly.

Ah - trailing the next prog or ep over the credits? Most have gone to make
a drink by then.

Thanks to shoddy timekeeping occasionally Sky One trail the next
programme (or a completely unrelated programme that they happen to be
pushing) over the _end_ of the programme, doing the "half screen squish"
and muting the dialogue ahead of schedule... now that's _really_ annoying.

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Angus G Rae Science & Engineering Support Team
Computing Services
University of Edinburgh
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On 16 Nov 2006 07:14:56 -0800, "Mark Carver"
wrote:

Where is your DTT coming from Alan, I'm surprised if you can get that,
that nothing is receivable for FM radio ?

We have a 'local' cable system fed from an aerial about 1km away
receiving from Darvel. It was originally a 'self help' system which has
worked very well. There's amplification at the aerial, more
amplification about halfway along and a small hut about 300m away which
combines the signal with five(?) satellite channels and drives the cable
to feed about twenty-five widely dispersed houses. Most people,
including us, use satellite but the Freeview is useful for recording.

FM is only useable on a very carefully positioned portable at crap
quality and I suspect that reception is via reflections as the direct
path is seriously blocked by a 600m hill.

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Alan White
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather
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In article ,
Angus Rae wrote:
Sorry. You said - above - 'on screen adverts for other shows'. Not
being clear what that means I assumed you meant trails.

Text or icons appearing alongside the station logo during other shows
saying things like (just as a random one from recently) "Cirque de
Celebrite, Sat 8PM" which seemed to appear under the "Sky One" DOG all
the damn time.

At least it's just text on Sky One - other channels (SciFi for one) pop
up large logos that often obscure the programme underneath quite badly.

Ah - trailing the next prog or ep over the credits? Most have gone to
make a drink by then.

Thanks to shoddy timekeeping occasionally Sky One trail the next
programme (or a completely unrelated programme that they happen to be
pushing) over the _end_ of the programme, doing the "half screen squish"
and muting the dialogue ahead of schedule... now that's _really_
annoying.

Ah - right. I don't have Sky, and from what you've said I've made the
right choice. ;-)

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*The more I learn about women, the more I love my car

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Angus Rae wrote:

Text or icons appearing alongside the station logo during other shows
saying things like (just as a random one from recently) "Cirque de
Celebrite, Sat 8PM" which seemed to appear under the "Sky One" DOG all
the damn time.

Ah - right. I don't have Sky, and from what you've said I've made the
right choice. ;-)

That won't help you. ITV already do it, even on ITV1 - they often have a
"Coming up:" banner slide into view towards the end of a programme.
BBC3/4 also do it, and it's only a matter of time before it pollutes
even more channels.

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Angus G Rae Science & Engineering Support Team
Computing Services
University of Edinburgh
The above opinions are mine, and Edinburgh University can't have them

JF wrote:
The only muddled thinking I see evidence for is that taking place
inside your head. It's all wrapped up in flowery verbiage by the
time it gets to your keyboard - but it's muddled just the same.

Of course. But my ability to stand long-cherished shibboleths on their
heads and to see things from perspectives denied to or ignored by
others has made me a millionaire! Existentialism is not only fun, it's
profitable fun!

You provide ample proof that clarity of thought is unrelated to personal
wealth.

Edster wrote:

Of course he's racist. He's from the generation that was taught to
fear all non-whites from a very early age. They had evil gollywogs in
the Noddy books, songs warning about them, and most TV shows
reinforced those fears. Everyone that age is like that.

Oh, I'll tell my parents. I wonder if they'll mind having to change the
habit of two lifetimes.

Or would you mind awfully spouting rather less balderdash?

Cheers,
Luke


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Lincoln City 0-2 Southend United (AET)
Swansea City 2-2 Southend United
We went up twice with Tilly and Brush

"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote:

Luke Bosman wrote:
Edster wrote:

Not even if everything except Radio 3 was 32kbps, which you said
would give the same quality we have now? Since they would only be for
occasional use by a tiny minority, they could all be mono, which
would make them 16kbps.

That would be the same quality as the internet commentary supplied by
PremiumTV. To be honest, it's tolerable (when listening through laptop
speakers and when the result is really important).


Admittedly you do give a caveat, but to suggest that 16 kbps is tolerable is
ridiculous.

No. I have a higher level of tolerance (for audio) than you. It is not a
ridiculous suggestion. It is verifiable fact.

It is also verifiable fact that it is intolerable. (You are proof of
that fact.)

Whether something is tolerable or not is a matter of opinion.

When you make any comments about audio quality please take into
consideration all those people that are listening on better quality
equipment than the lowest of the low kinds of devices that you seem to be
using - laptop speakers for Internet radio and a DAB portable radio for DAB.

Remember how I mentioned that I own a hi-fi system? It's horses for
courses. I do not need high fidelity sound for football. I do not need
high fidelity sound to wake me up in the morning. I do, however, insist
on high fidelity sound for music.

I suppose I could tell the rest of my family to clear off out of the
living room when I want to listen to the latest abysmal episode in the
history of Southend United F.C. I think they would find that
intolerable.

Cheers,
Luke


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Lincoln City 0-2 Southend United (AET)
Swansea City 2-2 Southend United
We went up twice with Tilly and Brush