SKY+

"Jomtien" wrote in message
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Zero Tolerance wrote:

Apparently people with Sky+ are so delighted with the service that not
only are they happy to pay for it, but they're also far less likely to
cancel their Sky subscriptions overall.

You have this back to front.

Most people taking Sky+ are already die-hard full-package Sky
subscribers who would have Sky anyway, regardless of how bad it is.
And as they don't have to pay the Sky+ fee, why not have it? Very few
people on low-tier subs take Sky+ unless they actually already wanted
an excuse to upgrade to a higher tier thus "saving" the £10 fee, and
even fewer take Sky+ without a Sky sub at all, thus requiring them to
pay the £10.

I do exactly that - I have no pay-channels but pay for the recording
facility

Zero Tolerance wrote:

Are you quite sure about that?

Yes.

Though of course I should have said HDCP and not HDMI.

OK.. Can you point towards any source of equipment which allows you to
make your own recordings of HDCP material?

They aren't made yet but the technology is specifically designed to
allow it.

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Zero Tolerance wrote:

No opinion involved at all. Simple and undeniable fact.

Sorry, "justified" and "unjustified" are matters of opinion.

Not at all.

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Brian Wescombe wrote:

Most people taking Sky+ are already die-hard full-package Sky
subscribers who would have Sky anyway, regardless of how bad it is.
And as they don't have to pay the Sky+ fee, why not have it? Very few
people on low-tier subs take Sky+ unless they actually already wanted
an excuse to upgrade to a higher tier thus "saving" the £10 fee, and
even fewer take Sky+ without a Sky sub at all, thus requiring them to
pay the £10.

I do exactly that - I have no pay-channels but pay for the recording
facility

I didn't say that you don't exist. I said that you are very few.

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Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:25:59 GMT, "Paul" wrote:

Nobody, including Sky, is preventing anyone from starting a rival
tv service and making their own boxes. BSB tried but failed and after
that everyone left it to Sky.

Don't forget On Digital...

And the common link between BSB & OnDigital failing - part owned by what is
now ITV - LOL

Dave

"Jomtien" wrote in message
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Zero Tolerance wrote:

This bit is nonsense. I have made numerous decent recordings onto DVD
via the scart.

No, that isn't possible.

"DVD recording is impossible", says Jomtien. Latest bulletin.

No, "decent recordings" via scart isn't possible.

You can get close, but that is all.

I can't tell the difference between stuff recorded on my Panasonic DVD
recorder and the original source from the Sky box. As long as I use the SP
setting, recordings are very good quality.

There are several DTT PVRs which have similar capability. As in integrated
twin-tuner EPG scheduled hard disc recording.

Still not the same thing. It's more than just hardware, it's the
software that makes the difference. And it's really the software that
you pay for.

I think my Digifusion Box has superior software to it than my Sky+ box, I am
not looking at any other software issues you have to pay Sky to use on top
of the Sky+ fee, alas my faith in Digifusion was shortlived when I purchased
a box for someone else and it was a Twin channel and that sofgtware was a
bag of ****e.

There are many one-tuner non-integrated hard disc recorders available,
but that doesn't make them a Tivo. - Same thing again.

Didn't you have to at one point pay Tivo to record programmes ?

So the question was one of so why do the service providers on DTT like BBC
not charge for recording.

I'm not sure it's a terribly interesting point, but the answer is
surely "because they can't."

Why can't they ? Using points raised above I'll just change the name of the
suggested channel - Sky Three, Sky News, Sky Sports News - so how can I
record them on my very stable Digifusion box with no *service* fee to pay.

Dave

At 10:41:46 on 13/09/2006, Dave Healey delighted uk.media.tv.sky by
announcing:

So the question was one of so why do the service providers on DTT
like BBC not charge for recording.

I'm not sure it's a terribly interesting point, but the answer is
surely "because they can't."

Why can't they ?

How can they?

At 10:30:31 on 13/09/2006, Brian Wescombe delighted uk.media.tv.sky by
announcing:


"Jomtien" wrote in message
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Zero Tolerance wrote:

This bit is nonsense. I have made numerous decent recordings
onto DVD via the scart.

No, that isn't possible.

"DVD recording is impossible", says Jomtien. Latest bulletin.

No, "decent recordings" via scart isn't possible.

You can get close, but that is all.

I can't tell the difference between stuff recorded on my Panasonic
DVD recorder and the original source from the Sky box. As long as I
use the SP setting, recordings are very good quality.

And on XP quality, mine even records the DD optical input.

"Jomtien" wrote in message
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Zero Tolerance wrote:

Granted. But decent equipment gets you a perfectly acceptable
recording over scart

No, it doesn't.

Yes it does. 99.99% of people would be unable to tell the difference.

Total nonsense.

You're the 0.01%